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| This week in ASBO corner; Greg Mounis with his one-match suspension
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| Only just seen this incident but was very surprised to see Mounis get a ban for that tackle which is similar to several others seen every season which just receive a penalty.
The disiciplinary certainly seem keen to come down hard on Catalans, more so than other teams. I wonder if this is because the players/coaches can only make representations over the phone rather than in person, and I also suspect that the disciplinary are more willing to suspend players from the teams further down the table who aren't consider to be major players in the league at the moment. By way of example, Mounis received a one match ban for a tackle that seemed to me to be accidental and the result of the involvement of Bentley arriving in the tackle, whereas other players from Wigan and Warrington for example have appeared before the disciplinary for tackling players high and off the ball, with no suspension arising (O'loughlin and Morley).
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| Anti French racism I say, it's all a conspiracy, blah blah blah!
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| Step one on the way to eliminating suspensions is to stop giving so many fricking penalties away.
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| Taking on NathanWood's point, Andrew was involved in the tackle to start with, if Mounis doesn't get involved then the attacker doesn't get flipped, as it ended up, he got flipped past the vertical so it ended up not being as dangerous as it looked at first.
Perhaps the disciplinary is being tough, but I hear that the "video guy" who is going to the hearings isn't helping matters. He is trying to over complicate the defence, the RFL are seeing him as thinking he is more important than he is, then they are handing down the punishments. IMO if Walters' appealed the decisions we would have had half the amount of suspensions we have had.
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"IMO if Walters' appealed the decisions we would have had half the amount of suspensions we have had.'"
Maybe Kev just really hates Frontline bathroom products.
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| Perhaps that is the reason for so many penalties.
Was speaking to G1 about this earlier and he mentioned that Leeds have a similar issue under Bluey, at which I pointed out, yes they do, but manage to stamp it out at the critical time of the year.
I just think that come semi-final time whether we have players like Greeny, McGuire and Walker back they won't have a platform on which to perform if Fev, Oli and the likes continue to give away penalties and posession.
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| Defending the players at tribunals is an impossible task when you are 1,000 miles away. The panel have already decided before the hearing what sentence they are giving out.
How many England players will get suspended this week prior to an International?
Looking at the back pages of the rugby press the other week where Westwood upended Raleigh makes me laugh, the RFL said there was not enough evidence to prove Raleigh was in a dangerous position, how about a large photo on the back page of the English Rugby press!!!
One rule for them and another one for us
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| whether you are 1000 miles away or not, the defence is not an issue if you can put your case accross well, look at how many suspensions we had when Potter was in charge compared to when Kevin has been in charge, perhaps that is one of the areas we need to look at when looking at replacements!
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| How do you put any case across well when the panel have already made up their minds.
If you don't think that certain clubs get treated differently to others then look at the case of Warrington & Leeds. Bailey got two warning letters for the same offence this season and then appeared for a third time and was found guilty but only fined because they had an injury crisis!!!
Westwood is continually kneeling on the backs of opponents legs but he always gets of with cautions and as for Morley well he is now a national treasure isn't he?
All Catalans need is some parity with the English clubs, it could be worse we could be a French club in the Championship...
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| I feel my point above has been proved at the disciplinary tonight, McGoldrick from Castleford got 1 game and a fine for the same offence as Keith Senior last week (kicking out). The only difference is the clubs they play for and the lottery of the panel...
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| Quote ="el red"I feel my point above has been proved at the disciplinary tonight, McGoldrick from Castleford got 1 game and a fine for the same offence as Keith Senior last week (kicking out). The only difference is the clubs they play for and the lottery of the panel...'"
The day I start to believe referees or the disciplinary panel are actually biased is the day I stop watching the game. I don't believe they are, but there's a separate issue regarding transparency where the NRL far outstrips the RFL.
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Quote ="el red"I feel my point above has been proved at the disciplinary tonight, McGoldrick from Castleford got 1 game and a fine for the same offence as Keith Senior last week (kicking out). The only difference is the clubs they play for and the lottery of the panel...'"
Ryan McGoldrick had two warning letters from the RFL previously for kicking out in the tackle. He's obviously paid sod all notice to them and did it again, rightly getting banned in the process.
Keith Senior (to the best of my knowledge) has no previous form for this offence and a pretty good disciplinary record over the length of his career. You can see the panel's decision making process on the RFL website for yourself if you're not too busy with crackpot conspiracy theories.
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1954
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Quote ="el red"I feel my point above has been proved at the disciplinary tonight, McGoldrick from Castleford got 1 game and a fine for the same offence as Keith Senior last week (kicking out). The only difference is the clubs they play for and the lottery of the panel...'"
Ryan McGoldrick had two warning letters from the RFL previously for kicking out in the tackle. He's obviously paid sod all notice to them and did it again, rightly getting banned in the process.
Keith Senior (to the best of my knowledge) has no previous form for this offence and a pretty good disciplinary record over the length of his career. You can see the panel's decision making process on the RFL website for yourself if you're not too busy with crackpot conspiracy theories.
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1954
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I take your point but if that is the case then surely Bailey from Leeds should have been banned for committing an offence identical to the ones he had received 2 warning letters about this season. To quote the panel after giving Bailey only a £300 fine;
"The panel have carefully considered the incident and viewed the DVD and feel that this was a poor technique which had the potential for serious injury. We give you credit for admitting the offence however we do note that you've had two warnings for a similar offence this season and we therefore must mark this incident"
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1705
Not a conspiracy theory, merely facts...
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I take your point but if that is the case then surely Bailey from Leeds should have been banned for committing an offence identical to the ones he had received 2 warning letters about this season. To quote the panel after giving Bailey only a £300 fine;
"The panel have carefully considered the incident and viewed the DVD and feel that this was a poor technique which had the potential for serious injury. We give you credit for admitting the offence however we do note that you've had two warnings for a similar offence this season and we therefore must mark this incident"
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1705
Not a conspiracy theory, merely facts...
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