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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"One cant hold down a regular place in a side that has struggled in recent years and the other has recently played at international standard, go figure!
I really think this is a wind up now.'"
He may have played International standard but there is not a lot of competition for the gig is there...
Plus Horney has played F/Back at International level and he is a flippin h/back...
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He may be a f/back but last season he was a [upoor[/u f/back, and based on what I saw if hypothetically we where in a position of ccup and choice, it would have been a tough call!!..'"
Did you see Briscoe playing for FC?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"One cant hold down a regular place in a side that has struggled in recent years and the other has recently played at international standard, go figure!
I really think this is a wind up now.'"
He can hold down a place in the side. He was ever present last season until he got injured. He gets moved about a lot because he can cover a range of different positions better than anyone else in the side.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He may have played International standard but there is not a lot of competition for the gig is there...
Plus Horney has played F/Back at International level and he is a flippin h/back...
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Horne is an international winger. Fact.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Both have very good positional sense.
Both back up very well.
Both are safe under the high ball.
Whiting is a better tackler.
Briscoe is faster.
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I'd say they were pretty much even. They are both good solid fullbacks who will rarely (if ever) score spectacular Slater-esque tries, but equally will never let the side down.'"
Briscoe used to all the time when he was here, his backing up from Horney's short ball to score under the sticks used to be a trade mark of his at Hull. Haven't seen him in any where near the same form for Rovers as he was when he was on the top of his game at Hull.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Did you see Briscoe playing for FC?'"
Of course...and he probably played his best rugby imo
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He may have played International standard but there is not a lot of competition for the gig is there...
Plus Horney has played F/Back at International level and he is a flippin h/back...
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There aint much competition at FC for the full back role but has still found it hard to cement a place in the team anywhere!
Horne has played on the wing also and calling him a half back is also debatable
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He can hold down a place in the side. He was ever present last season until he got injured. He gets moved about a lot because he can cover a range of different positions better than anyone else in the side.'"
The only reason for this is because the quality in the squad has declined over the years!
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Briscoe used to all the time when he was here, his backing up from Horney's short ball to score under the sticks used to be a trade mark of his at Hull. Haven't seen him in any where near the same form for Rovers as he was when he was on the top of his game at Hull.'"
We have seen the quality of Briscoe but we have not seen him cross the try line as much as he did for FC.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"There aint much competition at FC for the full back role but has still found it hard to cement a place in the team anywhere!
Horne has played on the wing also and calling him a half back is also debatable
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Calling Horney any-thing at the moment is debatable ...but it is the same sentiments as you posted about Briscoe he was an International, bit like Yeamo, does not mean they are now though does it, average at best
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Briscoe used to all the time when he was here, his backing up from Horney's short ball to score under the sticks used to be a trade mark of his at Hull. Haven't seen him in any where near the same form for Rovers as he was when he was on the top of his game at Hull.'"
Those tries were made by the pass from a set move. What I meant was that Slater will create something from nothing and finish it himself. Neither Briscoe or Whiting will do that: Briscoe isn't particularly creative and Whiting's usually too slow to finish anything other than the shortest of short range efforts.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Of course...and he probably played his best rugby imo'"
And you think Whitting is the better FB due to one MOTM performance last season?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And you think Whitting is the better FB due to one MOTM performance last season?
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No due to the fact, Briscoe was poor...missed tackles, and dropped ball.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"The only reason for this is because the quality in the squad has declined over the years!'"
It's not. It's because he wasn't injured as much. I don't think there have been too many games during Whiting's FC career where he's been fit but not selected. If he's available to play, he usually does.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"There aint much competition at FC for the full back role but has still found it hard to cement a place in the team anywhere!
Horne has played on the wing also and calling him a half back is also debatable
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The tactics that Rich Agar chooses to employ have a bigger influence on our team selection
i.e. Rich Agar likes a pivot @ 1 and a prop @ 13
When Briscoe played for FC, it was reversed with him @ 1 and Cooke @ 13
Otherwise I think Whiting would have nailed FB his own position but Agar will always opt for a pivot instead
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It's not. It's because he wasn't injured as much. I don't think there have been too many games during Whiting's FC career where he's been fit but not selected. If he's available to play, he usually does.'"
It is pal, where are the likes of Barnett Jr, Domic, Sing and even Raynor now. The quality in your backs just are not what they used to be.
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"The tactics that Rich Agar chooses to employ have a bigger influence on our team selection
i.e. Rich Agar likes a =#FF0000pivot @ 1 and a prop @ 13
When Briscoe played for FC, it was reversed with him @ 1 and Cooke @ 13
Otherwise I think Whiting would have nailed FB his own position but Agar will always opt for a =#FF0000pivot instead'"
You mean utility player
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"It is pal, where are the likes of Barnett Jr, Domic, Sing and even Raynor now. The quality in your backs just are not what they used to be.'"
I'm not denying that the quality of our backs isn't what it used to be, I'm saying that's not the reason Whiting is selected on a regular basis. After breaking through to the first team he's missed very few games other than through injury.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm not denying that the quality of our backs isn't what it used to be, I'm saying that's not the reason Whiting is selected on a regular basis. After breaking through to the first team he's missed very few games other than through injury.'"
Whiting made 22 appearances last season, 18 the season before.
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| Quote ="Cooper Crank"Sammut is a done deal, in fact a 1-year deal and then he wants to return to NRL footie in 2012. Longy will retire @ the end of the season and Hull will then make a big money move for...you guessed it, Cooper Cronk!'"
So we are going to pay a fee to secure a player for one season! I don`t think so!
If he comes and thats a big if , 3 year deal would be more appropiate after paying a transfer fee.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"So we are going to pay a fee to secure a player for one season! I don`t think so!
If he comes and thats a big if , 3 year deal would be more appropiate after paying a transfer fee.'"
Would you be happy that we paid the fee for a year if he helped us secure a CC/Grand Final win this season?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Would you be happy that we paid the fee for a year if he helped us secure a CC/Grand Final win this season?'"
wouldn't the obvious to that be "yes"
but in the absence of a crystal ball it would not be wise to pay a fee for a player who will be with us for only a year. I'm sure sammut would sign for longer than a year if the clubs can reach an agreement.
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| Quote ="Digby"wouldn't the obvious to that be "yes"
but in the absence of a crystal ball it would not be wise to pay a fee for a player who will be with us for only a year. I'm sure sammut would sign for longer than a year if the clubs can reach an agreement.'"
I can see what you're saying, but I think we really need a cover half this season and if we have to pay a fee then so be it. But I too would rather have him for 2-3 years.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I can see what you're saying, but I think we really need a cover half this season and if we have to pay a fee then so be it. But I too would rather have him for 2-3 years.'"
I don't think Sammut would come to be cover though, or are you saying that Horne would become cover?
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