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| A friend of mine brought this up today, one to think about maybe.
The last time we had a bit of unrest/people calling for heads etc was a fair bit after the paul cooke signing and his disruptiveness, apparently a hudgell signing and not one morgan wanted, could this be a similar thing with mason, hudgell looking at the finances he'd potentially bring in etc and not a player morgan necessarily wants?? Not my opinion but made me think about it. maybe a bit of substance to it, i dunno, first game offloading like a good un, nothing like since?
probably just co incidence and 6 year it ago it would have been a pipe dream signing mason but it did make me think a bit about it all!
Thoughts???
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| Quote ="phleastyler"A friend of mine brought this up today, one to think about maybe.
The last time we had a bit of unrest/people calling for heads etc was a fair bit after the paul cooke signing and his disruptiveness, apparently a hudgell signing and not one morgan wanted, could this be a similar thing with mason, hudgell looking at the finances he'd potentially bring in etc and not a player morgan necessarily wants?? Not my opinion but made me think about it. maybe a bit of substance to it, i dunno, first game offloading like a good un, nothing like since?
probably just co incidence and 6 year it ago it would have been a pipe dream signing mason but it did make me think a bit about it all!
Thoughts???'"
Nah, we were e as Cas as well and WM wasn't in the country then
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| Quote ="roversmad"Nah, we were poop as Cas as well and WM wasn't in the country then'"
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| As I put on another thread,Morgan sounded dispirited on Humberside tonight,its not what he is usualy like when being interviewed.Not trying to wind you up,just giving my thoughts.
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| Quote ="barton baird"As I put on another thread,Morgan sounded dispirited on Humberside tonight,its not what he is usualy like when being interviewed.Not trying to wind you up,just giving my thoughts.'"
I don't think he could be anything other than dispirited after our start
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| Quote ="roversmad"I don't think he could be anything other than dispirited after our start
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Lets just say I know how he feels.
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| Quote ="phleastyler"A friend of mine brought this up today, one to think about maybe.
The last time we had a bit of unrest/people calling for heads etc was a fair bit after the paul cooke signing and his disruptiveness, apparently a hudgell signing and not one morgan wanted, could this be a similar thing with mason, hudgell looking at the finances he'd potentially bring in etc and not a player morgan necessarily wants?? Not my opinion but made me think about it. maybe a bit of substance to it, i dunno, first game offloading like a good un, nothing like since?
probably just co incidence and 6 year it ago it would have been a pipe dream signing mason but it did make me think a bit about it all!
[uThoughts???[/u'"
My thoughts are that you should get your own material.
Quote ="Mrs Barista" But does anyone think Mason is the new Cooke from Morgan's perspective? '"
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| in all honesty mrs b i saw that after i posted and started browsing, i had a feeling you'd mention it. great minds eh???
like i said it wasn't my thoughts but a good friend of mine and it did make me think a bit!
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| Quote ="phleastyler"in all honesty mrs b i saw that after i posted and started browsing, i had a feeling you'd mention it. great minds eh???
like i said it wasn't my thoughts but a good friend of mine and it did make me think a bit!'"
Maybe I know your good friend.
My thoughts are that Mason does not strike me as Morganesque signing, more of a headline, proof-that-we're-in-the-big-time big name, which smacks to me of a Cooke-style acquisition. The fact that it's then triggered a load of controversy and the distraction of the visa saga, then the Dobson de-registration won't have helped IMO. FWIW I think Mason will be a great player for Rovers. But he's certainly not a textbook Morgan signing in the style of Green, for example.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe I know your good friend.
My thoughts are that Mason does not strike me as Morganesque signing, more of a headline, proof-that-we're-in-the-big-time big name, which smacks to me of a Cooke-style acquisition. The fact that it's then triggered a load of controversy and the distraction of the visa saga, then the Dobson de-registration won't have helped IMO. FWIW I think Mason will be a great player for Rovers. But he's certainly not a textbook Morgan signing in the style of Green, for example.'" I'm not so sure I think if Mason becomes available as a SL coach you want him.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I'm not so sure I think if Mason becomes available as a SL coach you want him.'"
Apologies if I'm a bit spiky tonight, but really, what are you on about?
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| Did mason kick dobbo and newts ankles in, thats why were crap.
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| Quote ="barham red"Did mason kick dobbo and newts ankles in, thats why were crap.'"
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| mrs b talking sense occasionally
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| Your older players are getting more injuries and you haven't got the junior system in place to replace them.
When Vella, Fisher and Galea retire you wont get any more room on the quota and as we've found it's hard to persude top uk players to come to Hull.
With the exchange rate and the higher wages in the NRL couple with tighter resrictions on young overseas players SL clubs will find it impossible to bring "stars" over, hopefully the youngsters will get a chance.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"=#FF0000Your older players are getting more injuries and you haven't got the junior system in place to replace them.When Vella, Fisher and Galea retire you wont get any more room on the quota and as we've found it's hard to persude top uk players to come to Hull.
With the exchange rate and the higher wages in the NRL couple with tighter resrictions on young overseas players SL clubs will find it impossible to bring "stars" over, hopefully the youngsters will get a chance.'"
Yes that 'old man' Dobsons' injury really has fooked things up.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Yes that 'old man' Dobsons' injury really has fooked things up.'"
As you can tell I didn't mean Dobson in the 'old' reference, but you are suffering from not having back up there.
Unless you count your loose forward as decent back up.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"As you can tell I didn't mean Dobson in the 'old' reference, but you are suffering from not having back up there.
Unless you count your loose forward as decent back up.'"
We have back up there, but, the coach won't give him a chance
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| Quote ="roversmad"We have back up there, but, the coach won't give him a chance
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He's a young lad who the coach has said isn't ready, Morgan see's him every training session and will be in a good position to make the call.
I thought he'd played all his RL at 6 anyway?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe I know your good friend.
My thoughts are that Mason does not strike me as Morganesque signing, more of a headline, proof-that-we're-in-the-big-time big name, which smacks to me of a Cooke-style acquisition. The fact that it's then triggered a load of controversy and the distraction of the visa saga, then the Dobson de-registration won't have helped IMO. FWIW I think Mason will be a great player for Rovers. But he's certainly not a textbook Morgan signing in the style of Green, for example.'"
You seem to speak a lot more sense since your ban, were you on a rehabilitation programme?
Mason IMO was meant to be the icing on the cake. The extra bit that turns something substantial into something really tasty.
It didn't happen, the icing arrived and the cake had disappeared.
Of course he was also meant to put bums on seats and if we'd been tearing up Super League he might have done.
We're bottom of the league right now apart from the teams with points deducted. I don't think that was part of the plan. We have to be honest we are a third of the way into the season and we must accept what the league table is telling us. Even the ghost of Dally Messenger would struggle to put bums on seats right now.
Perhaps Mason will hit his straps in the derby game. He still has fantastic ability but he complements what is around him not the other way round.
Right now Hull are favourites for the derby game, they are giving better performances, albeit not results, than Rovers. But 3 weeks is a long time in Rugby League so who knows.
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| Quote ="barton baird"As I put on another thread,Morgan sounded dispirited on Humberside tonight,its not what he is usualy like when being interviewed.Not trying to wind you up,just giving my thoughts.'"
I also interviewed JM and he seemed fine.
Wasnt downbeat in the slightest, just quite matter of fact really.
I disagree with the Cooke was signed as a trophy signing theory.
We were facing relegation in 2007 and a top quality proven SL player was available to sign.
Hardly going to refuse to sign Cooke was he.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Your older players are getting more injuries and you haven't got the junior system in place to replace them.
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With the exchange rate and the higher wages in the NRL couple with tighter resrictions on young overseas players SL clubs will find it impossible to bring "stars" over, hopefully the youngsters will get a chance.'"
The youngsters are not ready for Super League ?
Frankie Mariano playing out of his skin for Wakey not rated by Morgan a prime example .
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"I also interviewed JM and he seemed fine.
Wasnt downbeat in the slightest, just quite matter of fact really.
I disagree with the Cooke was signed as a trophy signing theory.
We were facing relegation in 2007 and a top quality proven SL player was available to sign.
Hardly going to refuse to sign Cooke was he.'"
Thats the problem i have Rob he should be downbeat, he should be gutted that we have just rolled over again with very little attacking flair and a poor defence, he should be downbeat that the fans have payed good money and had to watch that load of drivel again. He is the man who can change the team around but he's not hes persisting with his garbage gameplans and playing players out of position. If he was to hear alot of fans views about him last night im sure he would be downbeat
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Apologies if I'm a bit spiky tonight, but really, what are you on about?
'" I cannot see Hudge saying to Morgan 'We are getting rumours that Mason may be looking at coming to SL are you interested Justin?' and Morgan saying 'Nah' which is pretty much what you are hinting at.
Just as I can't see any SL coach saying 'Nah'.
I can see JM saying to Hudge 'Bloody too right i'm interested if you can get him, get him'.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I cannot see Hudge saying to Morgan 'We are getting rumours that Mason may be looking at coming to SL are you interested Justin?' and Morgan saying 'Nah' which is pretty much what you are hinting at.
Just as I can't see any SL coach saying 'Nah'.
I can see JM saying to Hudge 'Bloody too right i'm interested if you can get him, get him'.'" Think that's probably how it works at most clubs, had the same argument on our board.
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