If the rumour is correct and Rovers have bought Craig hall for next season and beyond, we need a new coach, because he has not got a clue what a rugby player is.Just because his old man was a good player for the robins does not make his son a good player. I have always had my doubts about him but watching him play against Wigan, well i am dumfounded as to what anyone see's in his play,he cant tackle in fact he wont tackle frightened to death when he has the ball unless there is no one in front of him. If Rovers have got him, then I will not be renewing my season pass for me and my family I am not subsidising another no hoper

Maybe Rovers should consult you on which players to bring in, in order to ensure the sale of a season pass.

So Uve had your doubts? Can I ask how many times youve seen the lad play? And I don't mean on tv.

Several years...and imo he is NL1 at best

And do you agree with the OP in saying that he WONT tackle and is frightened when he has the ball?

Slight over reaction. Not to buy a pass just because we may have signed craig as cover for wing / centre. I personally hope we haven't signed him but if we have then he'll get my backing and support and hopefully he can turn out to be a shrewd purchase.

He'll come cheap and will be used for cover I suspect. Not a bad choice in my opinion.

Look at it like this. He's a lad playing with no confidence for a team that uses him as a scape goat at any given opportunity. Richard Agar nothing about him and has failed to motivate a decent player. He can score good tries and is quick. Needs work on his defence but more over needs confidence building back into him. He'll get that at KR, he'll get that from Justin.

I'm not too fussed either way, but like said above he will get my full support.

If you'd watched Rovers in the NL you'd have seen players with only a fraction of the footballing ability Craig Hall has. He wouldn't be the first talented player not to realise his potential but lets see what a different enviornment & some quality coaching can do first.

When Latus made his mistake in the Derby, appart from his nerves at being in his biggest game ever and constantly targeted by hull, he did ok. Craig Hall on the other hand, as soon as he made his first error on Friday you could see the confidence flood out of him, the kid was gone, i can only assume the thoughts of how the fans at the KC destroyed Thorman and blamed him for hulls performances came flooding back. Plus, i hope he doesn't watch the replay of the game, Agar's reaction to Halls mistake wont help his confidence either, very unprofessional of Agar.

Expectations won't be high and nor will his wage. It'd be a gamble, but not a big one. He seems to be going backwards at the moment, but a fresh start might be what he needs. He'd only be a squad player initially. At worst he gives us a bit of depth in the 3/4s, at best he develops into the player it looked, 2 or 3 years ago, he could become. Goal kicker too and we don't have many if anything happens to Dobson.

Absolutely spot on.

Right that's it. When we sign Greg Inglis I am going to burn down Craven Park, put tacks under Morgan's Q7's tyres and pull Hudgell's chair out from under him just as he's about to sit down.

These people are destroying our club.

What do you expect him to do? Smile? A player effectively not only un did all the hard work his team mates did by forcing a drop out but he also piggy backed Wigan up the pitch.


Just like Scott Wheeldon was finally going to get a decent coach and would turn into a top prop... Hmm. We'll wait and see, like I said earlier on the FC board I hope he does realise his potential. From an International point of view if there's anything England lack it's a decent centre.

He isn't a good public speaker and I think we'll have seen the last of Hall in a Hull shirt unless there are mass injuries over the river.

If he comes to Rovers as cover I think he's worth a punt. He has the ability to do some amazing things with ball in hand and with confidence he can be a top try scorer. He could also be loaned out month to month to a NL1 side but be available for when we may need him like we would have used him now with Webster, Walker, Welham, Colbon and Ratu all out.

Tbf and not necessarily putting it down to coaching, Wheeldon had a very decent 2009. This year Vella has been fit more often, Clinton has arrived and Watts has come on a lot so he's not had as many opportunities. I don't think anybody thought he was going to turn into Jamie Peacock, but he's done well I think. He's unlucky not to be given a new contract IMO - ironically he's probably, to an extent, a victim of the rules intended to promote young British players. Still, he'll get a gig elsewhere I'm sure.

Dont rule out Wheeldon being retained just yet.

So this forced drop out cost Hull FC 46 points did it, and stopped them scoring a single point? So your effectively saying Craig Hall cost you the game....... I rest my case!

I would be disappointed to see Wheeldon go. As GML said, he had a great season last year and when called upon this year has been solid and reliable. I thought he was very good against Bradford and showed good pace for a prop when he made that break. I don't know why people say he's lightweight as he is at least 16 stone and hits as hard as any in SL.

Defensively he's not the best, his tackligs attempts at times are just lazy arms hung out for players to brush aside, the Bradford try after his break shows this tendancy perfectly.

Well all the times I have seen him I've never had an issue with his defence. IMO Lovegrove is the weakest defender out of all the props.

Please point out where I even suggest this cost us the game? Thought not. If a player is upset by seeing his coach display his frustration at him not being able to pick up the ball with no one closer than 30 metres to him then he's not got the mentality to play SL IMO.

Tansey?

Aren't you supposed to be showing me where I said Craig Hall cost us the game?

No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.



If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...