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| Quote ="tonylRobin"i hope he doesnt play over Easter.
hes heartless, for such a big guy he should be knocking defenders over like skittles, and as for his dependable defence, he hasnt got a big hit in him.
IMHO hes one of JM's biggest mistakes, esp the 2 year contract ext.'"
Couldn't agree more, I was gobsmacked when he got it! I thought he would be on his way after one season as he was generally pants in his first.
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| You taking the mick? His first year he was good and most people said he deserved a new contract however I think everyone expected him to get a 1yr contract not the two given. Since then he's been given little SL game time to even try and impress and the 6 sub apperances he did get he had maybe one poor game and the others he was solid.
Dont know when Millsy slept with Morgans Mrs but he's obviously done something wrong to not get more game time as thats all he needs, an odd game here or there he's never going to make any impact.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"
Dont know when Millsy slept with Morgans Mrs but he's obviously done something wrong to not get more game time as thats all he needs, an odd game here or there he's never going to make any impact.'"
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| If he is given game time let's hope he surprises us all but I very much doubt it. It'll be the same old same old, but another body on the pitch nevertheless.
As for being good in his first year I think you are certainly in the minority with that opinion. I think we are covering old ground on this thread but yes, he had one or two fans who have had a go a me in the past for criticising him but when he plays, apart form the odd moment the generally mumblings and grumblings in the East Stand around me indicate huge disappointment and frustration at the lack of impact and aggression from a man of his size. Again only time will tell.
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| Quote ap1717 wrote: oh fair enough, i was under the impression that =#FF0000i had left.. '"
Fair play Millsy for trying to drum up some support on here and remind the KR fans who you are
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| Should have kept Danny Ward (if we'd known what was coming the other way) could be worse, could have kept Jim Gannon!
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| Quote ="Bomber's tash"Fair play Millsy for trying to drum up some support on here and remind the KR fans who you are
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| Jim Gannon has gone on to Captain one of the best NL teams.
Danny Ward was a scapegoat on many occasions for not being the cannon ball he was at Leeds and not doing what his dad did (just like Millsy gets).
And if its a minority that thought he didnt do enough in his first season that minority includes Morgan! Mills is unfortunate that he was given such a big frame, he does pretty much the same as what Jason Netherton does, safe in defence a simple drive forward yet we always say how much we miss Netherton when he doesnt play! Half a foot shorter a couple of kg lighter he wouldn't get this criticism!
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| Quote ="nick hkr"Jim Gannon has gone on to Captain one of the best NL teams.
Danny Ward was a scapegoat on many occasions for not being the cannon ball he was at Leeds and not doing what his dad did (just like Millsy gets).
And if its a minority that thought he didnt do enough in his first season that minority includes Morgan! Mills is unfortunate that he was given such a big frame, he does pretty much the same as what Jason Netherton does, safe in defence a simple drive forward yet we always say how much we miss Netherton when he doesnt play! Half a foot shorter a couple of kg lighter he wouldn't get this criticism!'"
Nick,
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| if you look on wikipedia it says hes signed for South Wales Scorpions? is this so?
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Wales_ScorpionsSouth Wales Scorpions[/url
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mills_(rugby_league)David Mills Profile[/url
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| Quote ="nick hkr"You taking the mick? His first year he was good and most people said he deserved a new contract however I think everyone expected him to get a 1yr contract not the two given. Since then he's been given little SL game time to even try and impress and the 6 sub apperances he did get he had maybe one poor game and the others he was solid.
Dont know when Millsy slept with Morgans Mrs but he's obviously done something wrong to not get more game time as thats all he needs, an odd game here or there he's never going to make any impact.'"
Dont know when Millsy slept with Morgans
whenever morgan wasn't in!!!!!!!
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| Still no news on wether Millsy will be loaned out?
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| Quote ="Gremlin"Still no news on wether Millsy will be loaned out?'"
Nope. You'd assume he'd want some game time to put himself in the shop window for a NL contract next year. We can't and shouldn't expect anybody in the lower divisions to contribute more than a token amount to his wage - and we gain nowt by letting him rot in the stands. If someone offered him a month, Rovers should allow him that opportunity IMO.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Nope. You'd assume he'd want some game time to put himself in the shop window for a NL contract next year. We can't and shouldn't expect anybody in the lower divisions to contribute more than a token amount to his wage - and we gain nowt by letting him rot in the stands. If someone offered him a month, Rovers should allow him that opportunity IMO.'"
I agree. I feel a bit sorry for the bloke TBH. It must be hard watching from the sidelines week after week.
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| Quote ="Gremlin"Still no news on wether Millsy will be loaned out?'"
Christ knows why you're so desperate to get him, it'll take more than one of your, ahem, "Special Products" to liven the buggah up into perhaps breaking a tackle.
Quote ="Little Robin Redhead"I agree. I feel a bit sorry for the bloke TBH. It must be hard watching from the sidelines week after week.'"
He's supposedly had plenty of chances to sling his hook, including apparently to go to Crusaders in the off season. Fair enough, it'd have been on a reduced contract to the one he's currently on at Rovers but if he'd actually got his finger out and played somewhere near to how he did in his first season at Rovers they might have been stupid enough to offer him another full time deal for 2011. As it is, he's spent two years of a very time limited career doing nothing and he'll be lucky to end up at Hunslet Hawks (no offence intended) earning fifty Queens a week with a pork pie win bonus.
It's his own fault.
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| Quote ="pmh"Christ knows why you're so desperate to get him, it'll take more than one of your, ahem, "Special Products" to liven the buggah up into perhaps breaking a tackle.
He's supposedly had plenty of chances to sling his hook, including apparently to go to Crusaders in the off season. Fair enough, it'd have been on a reduced contract to the one he's currently on at Rovers but if he'd actually got his finger out and played somewhere near to how he did in his first season at Rovers they might have been stupid enough to offer him another full time deal for 2011. As it is, he's spent two years of a very time limited career doing nothing and he'll be lucky to end up at Hunslet Hawks (no offence intended) earning fifty Queens a week with a pork pie win bonus.
It's his own fault.'"
Would you take a cut in your wage, in exchange for the chance to do more work?
He'd be foolish to walk away for a poorer contract - as you say it is a short career. We're foolish if we expect him to sling his hook without compensation. If we weren't willing to make up the difference on what Crusaders were offering, that is our own fault. With hindsight.
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| The situation with Mills really is an odd one. He hasnt featured at all even for the under 20s since pre-season and if we believe what we read in the rugby press he has turned down opportunities to go out on loan. It isnt a great recipe for him earning a new contract somewhere else next season.
I feel sorry for him but if he wants to prolong his career beyond this season then he needs to put himself in the shop window and at face value it doesnt seem like he is that fussed.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Would you take a cut in your wage, in exchange for the chance to do more work?
He'd be foolish to walk away for a poorer contract - as you say it is a short career. We're foolish if we expect him to sling his hook without compensation. If we weren't willing to make up the difference on what Crusaders were offering, that is our own fault. With hindsight.'"
If I felt that my work was valued so poorly that no one ever took any notice I would leave, whether another job was available or not. Professional pride would not allow me to receive money from an organisation that had no respect or faith in my abilities. When I pick up a pay cheque I want to feel I've earned it.
If he has had the opportunity to move on he should have taken it. The message he is sending out is "give me a contract and I'll toss it off for the duration". The only move available to him as a result of his actions is retirement from the game. Who on earth would give him a contract with his attitude?
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| Quote ="pmh"Christ knows why you're so desperate to get him, it'll take more than one of your, ahem, "Special Products" to liven the buggah up into perhaps breaking a tackle.
He's supposedly had plenty of chances to sling his hook, including apparently to go to Crusaders in the off season. Fair enough, it'd have been on a reduced contract to the one he's currently on at Rovers but if he'd actually got his finger out and played somewhere near to how he did in his first season at Rovers they might have been stupid enough to offer him another full time deal for 2011. As it is, he's spent two years of a very time limited career doing nothing and he'll be lucky to end up at Hunslet Hawks (no offence intended) earning fifty Queens a week with a pork pie win bonus.
It's his own fault.'"
I don;t Desperately want him back at widnes,we have far better forwards than mills at the club at present and i want our younger players to have there chance now.Looks like Mills will just retire from the game with reading these comments on here.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Would you take a cut in your wage, in exchange for the chance to do more work?
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Yes, yes i would if the situation I faced was say, (random numbers plucked from air coming up) earning 100K until 31st October this year and then 5K or nothing from there on in, as opposed to maybe 30K now and the chance to broaden my experience with a view to moving into management in a few years time.
Obviously Mills won't be moving into coaching as he'd rather sit on the sofa watching Jezzer Kyle.
You make or break your own opportunities in this life, but then I don't need to explain that to you. You took the opportunity to live in the Midlands.
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I don;t Desperately want him back at widnes,we have far better forwards than mills at the club at present and i want our younger players to have there chance now.Looks like Mills will just retire from the game with reading these comments on here.'"
Good decision, I thought the chemicals had addled your brain since we were in the same division for a minute there.
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| Quote ="pmh"Yes, yes i would if the situation I faced was say, (random numbers plucked from air coming up) earning 100K until 31st October this year and then 5K or nothing from there on in, as opposed to maybe 30K now and the chance to broaden my experience with a view to moving into management in a few years time.
Obviously Mills won't be moving into coaching as he'd rather sit on the sofa watching Jezzer Kyle.
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I know what you're saying and I'd make that investment if I was a young RL pro. Say you're a promising young player not getting a game at your current club. You're single and you've never had much money, so you won't miss what you've never had. Another club comes in for you - it is less cash and you'll have to move, but you'll be playing regularly. It is a chance for you launch your career.
10 years later and you've had a moderately successful career, but you've dropped down the pecking order and aren't getting a game, again. You're married with a family and you taking a pay cut means them doing without. Your knees and your shoulder aches and you've had a decade of nomark fans slagging you off on the internet. Another club comes in for you - it is less cash and you'll have to move, but you'll be playing regularly. I'd sack it off, save as much as I could and enrol at college to learn a trade.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I know what you're saying and I'd make that investment if I was a young RL pro. Say you're a promising young player not getting a game at your current club. You're single and you've never had much money, so you won't miss what you've never had. Another club comes in for you - it is less cash and you'll have to move, but you'll be playing regularly. It is a chance for you launch your career.
10 years later and you've had a moderately successful career, but you've dropped down the pecking order and aren't getting a game, again. You're married with a family and you taking a pay cut means them doing without. Your knees and your shoulder aches and you've had a decade of nomark fans slagging you off on the internet. Another club comes in for you - it is less cash and you'll have to move, but you'll be playing regularly. I'd sack it off, save as much as I could and enrol at college to learn a trade.'"
mills is learning a trade now-how not to get picked by morgan he's maybe not the best around,but surely he would do a job for you???
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"mills is learning a trade now-how not to get picked by morgan
he's maybe not the best around,but surely he would do a job for you???'"
What role would you suggest though?
Theres a big number of forwards in front of him so unless we get a fair few injuries i cant see what job he could do for us, rumour is he doesnt like to train hard so theres no wonder he isnt getting another shot in the side really.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"mills is learning a trade now-how not to get picked by morgan
he's maybe not the best around,but surely he would do a job for you???'"
Unless he discovers a fair turn of speed and converts to a winger he won't get anywhere near a forward spot the way are front rowers are performing at the moment. Probably preparing for life part time in the lower leagues....which IMO is where he definitely belongs.
Plenty of size, but little heart.
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