Funny post but I think Sandy isn't doing too bad to be fair. You have got to remember the reasons he was brought in, and im fairly happy that he is doing what the board tasked him with.

I think the defensive patterns are ok its just individuals that cause problems, I like the way we play under Sandy and think its just a weak squad more than anything to do with his defensive coaching.

Everyone wanted to see 'young british players' and now our squad has a lot of these players the performances are inconsistent, our coach is $h1t!!

No coach in the league would do better with Rovers current squad, we cut our cloth to try and keep costs down so to be battling for a playoff spot is not too bad.

If we get strong investment and the squad gets a good overhaul Id be more than happy for Sandy to stay.

All imo of course

Didn't NH say you were spending close to the cap?

sandy was touted as some youth development guru, but as Sandra has highlighted, none of your young players have really improved and you ship a stack of points every week. It also seems your attack has turned to cack in the last couple of months. I think sandy's lack of coaching ability is like the emperor's new clothes to some fans, much like agar's was to many Hull fans who would constantly blame anything but the coach for poor performances

Spending close to the cap maybe so but the fact remains that the squad is weak and is probably not good value for money if you compared it with other squads.

We lost some senior players previous seasons and have recruited mainly young English inexperienced players which is what a lot of fans was calling for.

I would much rather see Sandy stay instead of some of the other names that are being branded about......Webster Steve Mac ....at least Sandercock has recent NRL experience. If we are going to replace him with someone then I think we should only do so for some one even more experienced.
If this investment comes through and we can attract a more proven coach then I would welcome that aswel. (If any are available)

As for Agar he is doing ok at Wakey imo they are playing pretty well, sometimes things just don't go your way and maybe that's what happened at F.C. but that doesn't mean hes a terrible coach. Just like I don't thin Sandy is.

And as for youth development maybe we should judge the current crop at the end of the season.

Don't steal my thunder you

Yeah, fair points - and my support is pretty equivocal. He's had a hard act to follow, not a great deal of luck with injuries and not quite the full cap to work with. Where he's not helped himself, IMO:

1. Talking about improving our defending was a hostage to fortune, and one that has backfired badly.
2. The 'team full of internationals' thing. Yep, SL isn't very competitive with just a handful of clubs able to hog nearly all the best players - but we take it for granted, and just get on with it. Acting like it is strange looks a bit like you haven't done your research or come to grips with things.
3. Maybe shifting the balance too far from hard working and reliable to talented and unpredictable. We wanted more excitement. But when people say that, they mean surprise presents or spontaneous nights out, not falling out of an aeroplane without a parachute.
4. Developing our youth, but losing or selling Taylor, Watts, Sheriffe and Peterson in his first season. How much of it was by choice I'm not sure. I don't know whether the last 2 are even getting much game time at Aussie part-time clubs. Taylor seems to be competing with Flower, Crosby and Dudson for a bench spot at Wigan, and while Hull fans seem to rate Watts he looked exactly the player that left us in the most recent derby (not a meaningful sample admittedly). But it has meant starting pretty much from scratch.

3 more games and I'll climb off the fence one way or the other, as to what I think [ushould[/u happen. Either way, the signals all seem to pointing towards him being let go at the moment.

There his signings!!

Correct. Tasked by the board to sign young, cheap English players. Which he has done

I am in total agreement with u on this one but like Sheldon says we're not actually that far of the cap, this is the real cap I'm talking about not the dodgy one were certain clubs spend what they want then give the wife's a wage

Travis Burns, Cory Paterson, Shannon McDonnell, Evarn Tuimavave, Constantine Mika, Micky Paea, Ryan O'Hara, Lincon Withers, Jason Netherton, Sean Gleeson, Alex Brown and Graeme Horne would beg to differ but obviously Greg Eden, Omari Caro and Adam Walker are the rule and clearly not the exception.

He's had a lot of injuries though, ref's decisions always go against rovers and every other club in SL has a team full of internationals.

Bit of balance in the wail

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Lowe, Hall & Parker probably don't have to pay to watch the shizzle being served up, so they can all just fook right off.

They probably don't pay for the alcohol which impairs their vision.

I'm pretty sure most of the players mentioned were not signed by sandercock, but by our board. but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

IT has been donkeys years since Lowe and hall played at this level and Parker never did so i agree with you Stan

I think Parker did play in SL, probably for Halifax.

Go on then which?

And why would a board sign players, i'm guessing the 2 from Crusaders, then hire a coach and totally change their recruitment policy?

Not the board JM.

Graeme Horne and Ryan O'Hara signed before Sandercock the rest after.

paea & mcdonell had already been touted in the press the summer before sandy arrived, o'hara, withers, netherton, horne. that's more than half your little exagerated list.

Quote ="red al"paea & mcdonell had already been touted in the press the summer before sandy arrived, o'hara, withers, netherton, horne. that's more than half your little exagerated list. '" Touted in the press? So Sandercock didn't get the final say? Craig Sandercock 26 sep 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15048600 Lincon Withers 27 sep 11 www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-KR.html Shannon McDonnell 28 sep 11 www.zerotackle.com/nrl/mcdonnell ... l-kr-4111/ Micky Paea 6 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15189886 Constantine Mika 27 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15474763 Evarn Tuimavave 26 jun 12 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18987959 Travis Burns Cory Paterson Sean Gleeson Alex Brown Jason Netherton All this season. Like I said earlier O'Hara and Horne were signed by a board then the board radically changed their recruitment policy and then let their coach sign 6 players who didn't fit the profile? Yeah ok.

Quote ="red al"paea & mcdonell had already been touted in the press the summer before sandy arrived, o'hara, withers, netherton, horne. that's more than half your little exagerated list. '" Touted in the press? So Sandercock didn't get the final say? Craig Sandercock 26 sep 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15048600 Lincon Withers 27 sep 11 www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-KR.html Shannon McDonnell 28 sep 11 www.zerotackle.com/nrl/mcdonnell ... l-kr-4111/ Micky Paea 6 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15189886 Constantine Mika 27 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15474763 Evarn Tuimavave 26 jun 12 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18987959 Travis Burns Cory Paterson Sean Gleeson Alex Brown Jason Netherton All this season. Like I said earlier O'Hara and Horne were signed by a board then the board radically changed their recruitment policy and then let their coach sign 6 players who didn't fit the profile? Yeah ok.

A fair response to the post you were answering - and CS has to bear a large share of the responsibility for the current structure of the squad. However, while we have signed experienced players, a good few more have departed since the end of 2011.
Vella, Newton, Galea, Fisher, Webster, Wheeldon, Briscoe, Fox, Cook, Colbon, Fox, Clinton, Green, Watts, Taylor, Murrell - all with enough experience that their presence in a 17 didn't make you nervous, on that score at least.
McDonnell has come and gone, Netherton gone and maybe come back.
He's signed a few inexperienced players, but he's also more reliant on our own club-trained relatively unproven players. That's why I'd give him a little latitude for now.

Glad he's had some backing from people close to the club - you stand by your man while he's your man.

Quote ="Sheldon"Touted in the press? So Sandercock didn't get the final say? Craig Sandercock 26 sep 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15048600 Lincon Withers 27 sep 11 www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-KR.html Shannon McDonnell 28 sep 11 www.zerotackle.com/nrl/mcdonnell ... l-kr-4111/ Micky Paea 6 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15189886 Constantine Mika 27 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15474763 Evarn Tuimavave 26 jun 12 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18987959 Travis Burns Cory Paterson Sean Gleeson Alex Brown Jason Netherton All this season. Like I said earlier O'Hara and Horne were signed by a board then the board radically changed their recruitment policy and then let their coach sign 6 players who didn't fit the profile? Yeah ok.'" wow, how much effort have you gone to? you are the love child of mrs bore! no one disputed the actual date the players signed, it's not very often you sign a player on that date without doing months and months of negotiating, which, from my origional list, i stand by my comments that those players listed were recruited with little input from sandy. Regardless of who he did or didn't sign, at the minute, we are pants and on occasions don't look too interestred as a team.

Quote ="Sheldon"Touted in the press? So Sandercock didn't get the final say? Craig Sandercock 26 sep 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15048600 Lincon Withers 27 sep 11 www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ll-KR.html Shannon McDonnell 28 sep 11 www.zerotackle.com/nrl/mcdonnell ... l-kr-4111/ Micky Paea 6 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15189886 Constantine Mika 27 oct 11 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/15474763 Evarn Tuimavave 26 jun 12 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18987959 Travis Burns Cory Paterson Sean Gleeson Alex Brown Jason Netherton All this season. Like I said earlier O'Hara and Horne were signed by a board then the board radically changed their recruitment policy and then let their coach sign 6 players who didn't fit the profile? Yeah ok.'" wow, how much effort have you gone to? you are the love child of mrs bore! no one disputed the actual date the players signed, it's not very often you sign a player on that date without doing months and months of negotiating, which, from my origional list, i stand by my comments that those players listed were recruited with little input from sandy. Regardless of who he did or didn't sign, at the minute, we are pants and on occasions don't look too interestred as a team.

Yeah cause googling a few facts takes ages.

So negotiating with players takes ages but you appoint a coach on a whim?

Good chat though, I've learned something at least.