Hearing a deal to bring Daniel Smith to hull with lovedua to Castleford is close

Only problem is lovedua dosent what to go

Milner is supposed to be off to Wakey too. Lovodua should be his replacement

Does he have a choice? Milner to Wakey is a strange one, is it a swap?

Season loan

Milner to wakey is a season loan

Hoenstly cant say ive ever noticed Smith which iant a great sign but wikipedia says hes 17 and and half stone and we need some size.

Joe offers nothing, im no clearer what position he plays, in good times you would have kept him as a project and see what happens but we cant carry any more passengers at the moment.

Of course he has a choice. He's contracted to us, if he doesn't want to go he doesn't have to. You can't make him I'm afraid. This is the situation we have got ourselves into.
Tbh if it's a swap for Smith, I'd rather we don't bother. Play one of our youngsters instead. Smith is no better than what we have.

In my opinion it's still a worthwhile swap primarily because it will open up a quota space which could be used much better than on Lovodua. I'd also say Lovodua has been no better this season than what one of our youngsters could do.

If Lovodua doesn't want to go, maybe he should have put more into his performance to make sure he was worth keeping.

Sadly I dont think he has the skills, we have likely been misled with some of his performances last year where had a turn of pace that was quicker than some of the oil tankers we have and we thought he was better than he was.

Don't need Smith, but would like the quota spot. Cas might need Smith off cap, as long as we use the quota spot to sign a forward I would be happy.

Exactly right, he is contracted to us. Players are swapped or sold regardless of their concerns. At the same time, if a player doesn’t want to be at his club, he can refuse to play till a move happens, Gary Schofield comes to mind. Lovodua isn’t the right fit, apparently doesn’t want to play hooker and can’t really command a place in the team anywhere else. If the rumour is true and he’s down to play hooker at Cas, then that could well be his reluctance. Just remember that all is rumour until it happens.

He dosent have a chance if smith wants rid of him

He does. He just sits here on his contract until it expires. Smith can't do anything unless Lovodua agrees to it.

He wouldn’t get another playing contract in this country if he did take that attitude.

Think that’s one of the problems within the club the attitude is all wrong with too many of them. Granted he has a contract with the club but if he is refusing to move think that shows his attitude is wrong and not a player you need in a squad. Any player that would rather sit out a contract rather than move to play regular rugby just shows where the commitment is.

Bit daft if Cas are offering him a longer deal

“Want to stay and fight for my place” is the phrase usually trotted out in this situation.

Can he not be loaned out?
I would think that he could not refuse being loaned out

Dan Smith was a decent prospect in his youth. He's developed into a solid pro, but hasn't really fulfilled his potential.

Can't just play under sized youngsters and it's not a great enviroment to bring therm in, I'm all for seeing younger players play but just because reserves/academy are winnig it's still a massive step up, although I'd like to see one of Gardiner or Laidlaw play.

If he doesn't want to play 9 , Then it doesn't leave many options open for him .

Is this just another rumour that Lovodua refuses to play 9 or is there actually substance behind it? The press release from when we signed him makes it clear from both club and player that he is primarily a hooker.

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Probably just a rumour , Id find it hard to see we sign a player ( International one ) who doesn't want to play in that position .
That said , If there's a chance we can come to some sort of arrangement to move him on , Then we should .

Adam milner staying at Castleford.

This is how low we've sunk - relieved at Wakefield not signing Adam Milner.