This isnt going to be a ref and the whole world hates us Rovers style post and i hate generally to blame the ref for bad performances as i believe you make your own luck BUT.......................

last night Thaler was gash. Every FC 50:50 went Wires way, every Wire 50:50 went Wires way. The holding down on wires line after Shauls break went unpunished and should of been ten minutes, the Wire player knocking the ball away whilst running back to his defensive line and disrupting play should of been ten mins for a professional foul. Minis pass being judged a knock on then five mins later Evans does exactly the same - play on, Tbh theres lots of caes leaving the fans in total bemusement at times

Dont get me wrong Wire were the better team but if decisions had gone a bit more our way then maybe we might of got a roll on (which we never seemed to do) and the result might of been a little closer

Spot on seb

The rfl might just get the wigan v saints final! Thaler = =#FF0000Please don't override the swear filter. Thank you. Karen

The one where the ball hits the player that's coming back from an offside position is not a sin bin as it clearly wasn't deliberate.

Agree the rest though. We just couldn't get any momentum without a bad call coming up.

Watched it again and got most of the decision correct, don't like his style of reffing though.

My bro thinks theres an agenda, us cc cup, wire LLS, Wigan GF winners

It looked pretty deliberate at the time as he stopped running back to make sure he was in the way.

Not seen it again on TV though so don't know if that shows anything different.

He's an idiot then.

Thaler is a showoff but most decisions last night were correct.

Thaler had a better game than most of our players.

well from where I was sat there first try was a forward pass, and the other big grumble was the hold down after the shaul break, I am positive that was sin binning and penalty to us, saying that no grumbles with wire winning they derserved it,

The holding down after Shaul's break was crucial. Get a quick PTB and we score and go 2 up. But we are held down and the momentum was totally lost. See today's NRL match for the perfect interpretation of that play. Many other decisions were hard to argue against. BUT it's the consistency that is the issue. After the holding down I mention there were several penalised which if he was being consistent should not have been penalised. Fanua won one in our 20 which was no where near as bad as the one he let slide.

Don't get me wrong we were dire. BUT that one crucial decision imho was a momentum changer. from 10 down we could have been 2 up after 50 mins. Who knows what could have happened after that.

shaul should have backed himself instead of passing to taylor. The prop was always going to get caught but I think shaul remembered bombing a try last week when he held on instead of passing. Also disappointing no one else was backing him up

Thought the holding down was ok, just, Taylor should have passed it straight onto Watts, only Penny in his way.

Backing up is poor again (could be fatigue) number of times players promoted the ball and no one there, Mini went mad at one point.

There is only shaul in the team with any pace, so if he makes a break nobody is going to be near him

The holding down on e Shaul break was not ok. Taylor won the collision, he was facing their line. Lineham was all over him (4 seconds) . Penalty later in the game for holding was given for just a 2 second delay. Wrong decision which should have resulted in a yellow card.

A decision which confused me was the penalty against mini for a pass off the floor. In the current game after a tackle is deemed complete if the ball carrier doesn't play the ball the ref call for the ball to be played at the spot of the tackle and not a penalty. Minis ball carrying arm touched the ground, fair enough. But why not instruct the player to play the ball?

'high tackle' by michaels which was patently not was another of his mistakes. timing of poor decions by officials very much had a bearing on the outcome despite us being pants

That's a pretty low bar to clear though.

He got a lot of big decisions wrong, and the majority went against us. Just because we were e doesn't excuse the officials for being terrible.

Well if he gets appointed to the Wigan game, this forum will go into meltdown AND RIGHTLY SO.

That's for when the referee calls held and the player doesn't hear it or if the pass is at the same time as the call. When a player passes after he knowingly ends the tackle by his ball carrying arm hitting the ground it is a penalty.

It is the rule but it's stupid that in one instance you get penalised and in the other you get to play the ball and the only difference is taht the ref hasn't shouted held. The rules should be the same for both

I disagree with some of the chat about Russell dragging his heels getting back onside. That particular play was all but in line with where I was sat in the west stand. I think he knew exactly where he was on the pitch and what he was doing !! With the momentum we had at that point in the game, I think it was definitely a professional foul. And should have been dealt with as such.

How come you never blame the ref when you win?

Read the opening post dopey and you'll see im not blaming the ref for us losing - just questioning some of his poor decisions

OK thicko, why do you seem to question the refs decisions when you lose? Do you usually have a thread on the ref when you win? NO, Get over it.