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| James Smailes @James_Smailes
Breaking News: Bradford Bulls will remain in Super League in 2013, club awarded a one-year probationary licence
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| Quote ="Punos"James Smailes @James_Smailes
Breaking News: Bradford Bulls will remain in Super League in 2013, club awarded a one-year probationary licence'"
What a joke the RFL/SLE are.
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| The precedent is set,go Hudge,lol
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| Quote ="FONT"What a joke the RFL/SLE are.'"
Why?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Why?'"
Don't expect a sensible answer.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Don't expect a sensible answer.'"
Don't expect any answer, I am not going to explain the obvious.
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| Quote ="FONT"Don't expect any answer, I am not going to explain the obvious.'"
No, come on. You want to discuss things with the adults. Why are the RFL a "joke" over this.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"No, come on. You want to discuss things with the adults. Why are the RFL a "joke" over this.'"
Adults!
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| Quote ="FONT"Don't expect any answer, I am not going to explain the obvious.'"
Translation: "I have no rational argument whatsoever. Oh dear. "
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| Wow what a surprise!!
To be honest once the other SL clubs had decided to stick with a 14 team league this was inevitable, despite the claim that a mini round of licencing was taking place to include Halifax, Fev & Leigh It was always going to be the Bulls.
To be fair none of the other clubs would have been equipped to come into SL at the present time and been able to put a competitive squad together for 2013.
Ironic that this comes on the day that Potter quits (not that he had a job to quit as he was working for free)
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| Quote ="Kosh"Translation: "I have no rational argument whatsoever. Oh dear.
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Maybe you are correct!
I love the RFL really, they make some top decisions for the good of the game
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| Taken from the Bulls board:
Quote RFL PRESS RELEASE
Bradford Bulls awarded probationary Super League licence
The RFL Board of Directors has awarded a one-year probationary licence to Bradford Bulls which will allow the club to remain in a 14-team Super League for 2013.
The decision of the RFL’s independent Board of Directors was relayed to Bradford Bulls and the sport’s other member clubs earlier today and ends the uncertainty that has surrounded the structure of both Super League and the Championship competitions in recent months.
Bradford Bulls were reinstated as full members of the RFL earlier this week after the club’s new owner provided all the financial information required for the governing body to complete its due diligence process.
RFL Chief Executive Nigel Wood said: “This is a very positive development which provides stability for all the clubs in Super League and the Championship and allows the sport to approach next season with even greater confidence.
“The Board deliberated long and hard and took into consideration the many views of the sport’s various constituents before reaching a decision which we believe is in the best interests of the whole game.
“The new owners of Bradford Bulls are to be congratulated on their foresight in purchasing a club which we always knew was a very attractive proposition. Their investment in Bradford Bulls is a vote of confidence in Super League.
“A probationary licence allows us to closely monitor the performance of Bradford Bulls next season and develop a view on what direction we take in future years. That direction will be framed by the ongoing strategic policy review that we expect to present to clubs in the first half of 2013.
“The probationary licence also precludes the need for a mini-licensing round, which the overwhelming majority of clubs accept was impractical given the timeframes involved.
“The RFL Board and Executive will continue to work with all member clubs to build on the terrific progress we have experienced in 2012.”
c/o TotalRL.com'"
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| Bradford Bulls awarded probationary Super League licence
The RFL Board of Directors has awarded a one-year probationary licence to Bradford Bulls which will allow the club to remain in a 14-team Super League for 2013.
The decision of the RFL’s independent Board of Directors was relayed to Bradford Bulls and the sport’s other member clubs earlier today and ends the uncertainty that has surrounded the structure of both Super League and the Championship competitions in recent months.
Bradford Bulls were reinstated as full members of the RFL earlier this week after the club’s new owner provided all the financial information required for the governing body to complete its due diligence process.
RFL Chief Executive Nigel Wood said: “This is a very positive development which provides stability for all the clubs in Super League and the Championship and allows the sport to approach next season with even greater confidence.
“The Board deliberated long and hard and took into consideration the many views of the sport’s various constituents before reaching a decision which we believe is in the best interests of the whole game.
“The new owners of Bradford Bulls are to be congratulated on their foresight in purchasing a club which we always knew was a very attractive proposition. Their investment in Bradford Bulls is a vote of confidence in Super League.
“A probationary licence allows us to closely monitor the performance of Bradford Bulls next season and develop a view on what direction we take in future years. That direction will be framed by the ongoing strategic policy review that we expect to present to clubs in the first half of 2013.
“The probationary licence also precludes the need for a mini-licensing round, which the overwhelming majority of clubs accept was impractical given the timeframes involved.
“The RFL Board and Executive will continue to work with all member clubs to build on the terrific progress we have experienced in 2012.”
c/o TotalRL.com
I rest my case!
I will say no more on the subject.
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| This decison is a complete farce, Bradford should start next season down in NL2 and come back up that way. Super League can still carry on without them with 13 teams. Why should the clubs in the Championship get their finances etc in order ready for a franchise application when a current franchise goes into administration but nothing happens to them.
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| So the mini round of licencing never happened.
So reinstating Bradford was the only option otherwise 13 team league with no format for Magic Weekend.
All said I'm happy to see the Bull's survive.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Why?'"
Because it has now set a precedent. What is to stop Rovers/Salford/London and any others with financial problems going down the exact same route Bradford have? The Scottish FA had the right idea when they demoted Rangers "Newco" to the bottom tier, so it sends out the right message to other sides not to go down this route unless you want to start at the bottom from scratch.
The RFL on the other hand have said, go down this route and all you will lose is 6 points.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"This decison is a complete farce, Bradford should start next season down in NL2 and come back up that way. Super League can still carry on without them with 13 teams.'"
Except that the other SL clubs voted for SL to stay at 14 teams. So, no - SL couldn't carry on with 13 teams next season.
Quote ="World of Redboy"Why should the clubs in the Championship get their finances etc in order ready for a franchise application when a current franchise goes into administration but nothing happens to them.'"
Nothing happened to the Bulls? I must have imagined the 6 point deduction and losing their coaching staff etc. And being put on probation for a year (which may or may not be significant, granted).
And of course the main reason they would do so is because they won't get into SL if they don't.
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| Quote ="FONT"Maybe you are correct!
I love the RFL really, they make some top decisions for the good of the game
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Why would it be for the good of the game for Bradford not to be in SL? They generate decent crowds and they have a reasonabily competitive team. Despite the mullering we gave them, as we went into that game Bradford had won more games than us in SL this season at that point.
I really don't understand your gripe? Both London and Wakey have both gone into adminisatration in the past, they were not demoted. Its not like there is a history of it.
By all means do explain your discord, if you actually have one!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Except that the other SL clubs voted for SL to stay at 14 teams. So, no - SL couldn't carry on with 13 teams next season.
Nothing happened to the Bulls? I must have imagined the 6 point deduction and losing their coaching staff etc. And being put on probation for a year (which may or may not be significant, granted).
And of course the main reason they would do so is because they won't get into SL if they don't.'"
KOSH, I hate to say this, but you are an idiot!
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"So the mini round of licencing never happened.
So reinstating Bradford was the only option otherwise 13 team league with no format for Magic Weekend.
All said I'm happy to see the Bull's survive.'"
As the statement points out, the other clubs said they couldn't do the 'mini round' in the time available.
A 13 team league was off the table when the other SL clubs voted against it weeks ago. The only options were to keep the Bulls in place for a season or promote someone from the Championship without being able to fully assess them first. Neither choice was ideal TBH.
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| Quote ="FONT"KOSH, I hate to say this, but you are an idiot!'"
Care to point out where I have any facts wrong? Or are you still not capable of an adult discussion?
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| Quote ="hullbg"Because it has now set a precedent.'"
Not really.
Quote ="hullbg"What is to stop Rovers/Salford/London and any others with financial problems going down the exact same route Bradford have?'"
How about having to replace their BOD? Finding a willing buyer not previously connected with the club? Losing their coaching staff? The personal ramifications to directors of taking a business into administration or liquidation? Credit blacklisting?
It really isn't a soft option and there is absolutely no guarantee of getting a similar result.
Quote ="hullbg"The Scottish FA had the right idea when they demoted Rangers "Newco" to the bottom tier, so it sends out the right message to other sides not to go down this route unless you want to start at the bottom from scratch.
The RFL on the other hand have said, go down this route and all you will lose is 6 points.'"
The RFL have applied the rules as voted for by member clubs. Which is exactly what the SFA did. If the other Scottish clubs had wanted Rangers to stay up then they would have.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Care to point out where I have any facts wrong? Or are you still not capable of an adult discussion?'"
No facts are wrong, but to suggest that Bradford have been adequately punished is close to insanity, what have they lost exactly?
Should HKR now just go bust and restart as a SL team with no debt?
Should London do the same, we can let Salford as well while we are at it!
Level playing field my back side!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"As the statement points out, the other clubs said they couldn't do the 'mini round' in the time available.
[uA 13 team league was off the table when the other SL clubs voted against it weeks ago[/u. The only options were to keep the Bulls in place for a season or promote someone from the Championship without being able to fully assess them first. Neither choice was ideal TBH.'"
I know, I already covered that in an earlier post.
The only surprise to me was that the Mini Licencing wasn't taking place, which would have been a lip service exercise anyway, Bradford were always going to be back in.
I don't have a problem with it, and as a previous poster mentioned Wakey & London went into administration and remained in SL (albeit London was before franchises). The difference with Bradford is there has been sucjh a big gap between administation and finding a new buyer so they have really been under the spotlight.
Now come on Mr Khan, get a lid on the away end of the new "Wembley of the North"
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| Quote ="Kosh"Not really.
How about having to replace their BOD? Finding a willing buyer not previously connected with the club? Losing their coaching staff? The personal ramifications to directors of taking a business into administration or liquidation? Credit blacklisting?
It really isn't a soft option and there is absolutely no guarantee of getting a similar result.
The RFL have applied the rules as voted for by member clubs. Which is exactly what the SFA did. If the other Scottish clubs had wanted Rangers to stay up then they would have.'"
How do you think Wakefield are feeling right now? They went into administration and did their damnedest to sort it out by selling off players etc. Bradford do it and the only step they took was to fire the coach and coaching staff, and fleece 1/2 million from their fans and other fans. No players sold etc. Explain how they have really been punished? They have the coaching staff back, the coach back, the debts are gone, all the players are still there barring 1. They are also in the Super league next season. I am having a hard time figuring out the punishment.
Yes they got a 6 point deduction, but lets face it that decision spurred the players on to play better whilst their futures were in limbo, as soon as it was sorted they went back to form and lost the remaining 2 fixtures.
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