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| We could do a lot worse for a back up.
However it would all depend on how much money he wanted.
Sure if he's worth a shot James Webster will be having a word with Agar about him as he'll have seen him first hand.
Seems to be doing well at widnes though. people may have resevations as we let him go previously but if your looking for a back-up youngish half back from the championship then he's got to be up there.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No thanks.'"
Indeed. Not sure why people think Thacks is the answer when he wasn't at the time. He's a running half too, we struggle for an organiser.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No thanks.'"
Better than no one and at the minute we have no one. Its a shambles that a professonal club like ours dont have a back-up 7. Imagine Man U going into a season with O'Shea in goal? I say get him now.
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| Quote ="Edenmain"Better than no one and at the minute we have no one. Its a shambles that a professonal club like ours dont have a back-up 7. Imagine Man U going into a season with O'Shea in goal? I say get him now.'"
How many other professional clubs have back up 7s hanging about ?
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| But considering ours is 32 and wasn't expected to play in all games anyway....
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| Quote ="Edenmain"Plenty'"
name them then
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"How many other professional clubs have back up 7s hanging about ?'"
Exactly, if we had paid out for a top back up 6 and 7 at the start of the season instead of props etc we would have been hearing "cant believe dows , cussack and radford are all we have""
its a clear case of cash versus whats available at the time and to be honest who would have ever dreamed SL would have had such a torrid season with injuries??
AND WERE STILL 4TH !!!!!!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"name them then'"
I don't think many have back up halfbacks just sat around waiting for a game, per se. Perhaps only Wigan have that luxury in Paul Deacon. Other teams do seem to have better back up options from moving a player into the halves than we do, though. Warrington have the option of switching Monaghan from hooker. Huddersfield have Luke Robinson. Saints have options in Moore and Roby. Leeds can use Sinfield. We have Washy/Berrigan, neither of whom are particularly effective in the role (Quins aside). None of which means that we should sign Anthony Thackery, of course.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I don't think many have back up halfbacks just sat around waiting for a game, per se. Perhaps only Wigan have that luxury in Paul Deacon. Other teams do seem to have better back up options from moving a player into the halves than we do, though. Warrington have the option of switching Monaghan from hooker. Huddersfield have Luke Robinson. Saints have options in Moore and Roby. Leeds can use Sinfield. We have Washy/Berrigan, neither of whom are particularly effective in the role (Quins aside). None of which means that we should sign Anthony Thackery, of course.'"
wire also have bridge who is a very good squad player and competent right across the back line
Biggest problem we have is that we have 2 injury prone 1/2 backs who struggle to string more than a couple of games together.
Next season will be teh same and we'll no doubt re-sign horne for 2012 and beyond
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I don't think many have back up halfbacks just sat around waiting for a game, per se. Perhaps only Wigan have that luxury in Paul Deacon. Other teams do seem to have better back up options from moving a player into the halves than we do, though. Warrington have the option of switching Monaghan from hooker. Huddersfield have Luke Robinson. Saints have options in Moore and Roby. Leeds can use Sinfield. We have Washy/Berrigan, neither of whom are particularly effective in the role (Quins aside). None of which means that we should sign Anthony Thackery, of course.'"
I agree...however Whiting would have been my back-up but he had to go on the wing due to Calders.....I would honestly use Whiting as 6 next year he has great hands and a great rugby brain.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I agree...however Whiting would have been my back-up but he had to go on the wing due to Calders.....I would honestly use Whiting as 6 next year he has great hands and a great rugby brain.'"
Yet none of our last 3 coaches have seen fit to play him in the halfs despite us having at least one half back injured or missing for the last 4 years
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| Other people beat me to it, other teams (mainly the top teams surprisingly?) have at least 2-3 players who can lead their team around. While im indebted to the efforts of berro, Whiting, Washy and Turner at giving it ago in the backs this year, they dont have the same abilities in that position as the players at other teams stated above.
I know that you cant predict injuries and we seem to get more than our share in key positions but Agar must have know that we were going to have to play some one else at 7 this season for more than just a couple of games.
Are our reserve teams of such a standard that their no.7 cant be brought in? NRL teams are never afraid to do this but its not so regular in Britain. Is their Toyota Cup of a much higher standard?
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| Remember that RA knew he had to strengthen the pack first before anything else happened and that is what he did..
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Yet none of our last 3 coaches have seen fit to play him in the halfs despite us having at least one half back injured or missing for the last 4 years'"
Whiting has been injured himself a lot of that time. I can't recall too many (if any) occasions where halfback cover has been required and Whiting has been fit, but not needed to cover another position. This season, for example, it could be argued that we'd have been weaker with Washbrook on the wing and Whiting in the halves than the other way around.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Remember that RA knew he had to strengthen the pack first before anything else happened and that is what he did..'"
Well we can't complain in that department at all!
They will need to be firing on all cylinders against Leeds. Without Peacock and Burgess we should..... No "Have to" bludgen them down the middle. They will be relying on Leului and Bailey (who will be up for it) and we have to smash them!!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Remember that RA knew he had to strengthen the pack first before anything else happened and that is what he did..'"
To be fair to RA he didnt know that the likes of Washy, Berro, Turner etc would all prove incompetent halves should horne and long both get injured again.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"To be fair to RA he didnt know that the likes of Washy, Berro, Turner etc would all prove incompetent halves should horne and long both get injured again.'"
Yes, I suppose he hasn't been at the club for very long.
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| Quote ="Edenmain"Well we can't complain in that department at all!
They will need to be firing on all cylinders against Leeds. Without Peacock and Burgess we should..... No "Have to" bludgen them down the middle. They will be relying on Leului and Bailey (who will be up for it) and we have to smash them!!'"
absolutely spot on, and to be fair to them both bailey and Leului are both bang on form as well so it will be an interesting battle that one, i would expect to see Senior on the 2nd row that day also which will give them lots of speed to counter too...
However i believe we will wrap the forward battle up early due to the weight of numbers we can muster but their back line is awesome which ever way you look at it and always looks dangerous
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| Yeah, foward dominace = field position and (hopefully) more ball....
NOT meaning our backs can take it easy, Leeds are more likely to score full length tries than anyone.
Id put Leului and Graham as my 2 starting props in an all star team of Super League over the last 5 years.
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| didnt even know why we lot thacks go... the game at wakefield away he was brilliant, good half back, had the potential to be a really good player, and we did what hull fc usually do... be stupid and let him go
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| Quote ="weareull"didnt even know why we lot thacks go... the game at wakefield away he was brilliant, good half back, had the potential to be a really good player, and we did what hull fc usually do... be stupid and let him go'"
If he was/is that good he'd be in sl.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If he was/is that good he'd be in sl.'"
Exactly. If we were so foolish to let him go, why hasn't he been snapped up by another SL club? Not even the lower placed clubs seem interested.
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