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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Sydney is a major World city that has hosted the Olympics, so you are setting the bar pretty high.
Also, I don't know your circumstances, but generally people tend to have a tourist bias - as there is big difference between living somewhere and visiting a place. I lived in Oxford, which pulls in massive numbers of tourists for its size, and it is a nice enough place - but there are scuzzy bits. Tourists though, only see the square mile or so in the centre, around the older colleges. When I've been to visit people rather than places in London, it is mostly like walking through a quiet scene in The Bill. New York, outside of Manhattan, seems fairly humdrum.
Sydney is more than the harbour. A fairer comparison would be Hull vs Newcastle (NSW), or, as you say, Townsville.'"
Correct Hull vs townsville makes hull a better prospect by a margin!!!
But like the poster here said, it is all down to personal opinion, i loved Hong kong but would notleave my car unattended in kowloon, I loved Orlando but got lost driving and found the arris end of the city by accident that makes Preston road look lovely..
Actually newcastle isnt too dissimilar is it
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| Does anyone have any evidence that a player has ever turned down the club because of Hull's reputation as a sheet hole?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does anyone have any evidence that a player has ever turned down the club because of Hull's reputation as a sheet hole?'"
Didn't Menzies say it put him off because he found out it was the worse place in England to live , not certain but thought he said it
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Didn't Menzies say it put him off because he found out it was the worse place in England to live , not certain but thought he said it'"
So he moved to bradford instead
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| I do think Hull is a pretty good place there is not a lot here or a lot of money invested in facilities and the city centre is pretty dull. But as people have rightly said, places with a higher reputation that ours all have their bad areas and I think I'm right in saying their scummy areas are a lot worse than ours. We must have the lowest gun crime in Britain?
I think why people like Hull is (and why we do) is that the people are pretty much the nicest you'll find anywhere and players must notice this. The Fuss a aussie international would generate in Hull would be imense! In Manchester or Liverpool? hardly a mention I'd bet, in papers full of football nonsense.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So he moved to bradford instead
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| If anybody fancies seeing Sydney in a worse light, may I reccomend a trip out to Rooty Hill RSL, or go ask for directions in Cabramatta or even to Panthers!
Can the city council not stop camera crews from going to the worst areas of our city and tarnishing everybody's impression of it, and also ban any residents from talking to press unless they have a) a full set of teeth b) basic command of the english language c) Not in receipt of benefits.
In fact, let's let J.Rule do the talking for the city, nice local private school boy with a great line in smarmy bull!
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"If anybody fancies seeing Sydney in a worse light, may I reccomend a trip out to Rooty Hill RSL, or go ask for directions in Cabramatta or even to Panthers!
Can the city council not stop camera crews from going to the worst areas of our city and tarnishing everybody's impression of it, =#0000FFand also ban any residents from talking to press unless they have a) a full set of teeth b) basic command of the english language c) Not in receipt of benefits.
In fact, let's let J.Rule do the talking for the city, nice local private school boy with a great line in smarmy bull!'" So basically, when they come into Hull on the A63 we should raise the bridges and not let them cross the river then!
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| Quote ="Edenmain"I do think Hull is a pretty good place there is not a lot here or a lot of money invested in facilities and the city centre is pretty dull. But as people have rightly said, places with a higher reputation that ours all have their bad areas and I think I'm right in saying their scummy areas are a lot worse than ours. We must have the lowest gun crime in Britain?
I think why people like Hull is (and why we do) is that the people are pretty much the nicest you'll find anywhere and players must notice this. The Fuss a aussie international would generate in Hull would be imense! In Manchester or Liverpool? hardly a mention I'd bet, in papers full of football nonsense'"
Don't really see why you're knocking football so much tbh.
Also, why the fook would an Aussie international signing generate a fuss in Manchester or Liverpool? signing for who exactly?
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| I'm not from hull and I'm sorry but I seen far far worse areas in my lifetime. Iv enjoyed my time there and even on an all day boys day away it was spot on. Spoke to alot of fans FC and rovers and nothing bad to say.. every area has theirs but hull is nowhere near the worst. It's still just a matter of opinion in the end
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Don't really see why you're knocking football so much tbh.
Also, why the fook would an Aussie international signing generate a fuss in Manchester or Liverpool? signing for who exactly?'"
Eerm what? read it again..... (our schools aren't up to much either in Hull)
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| Quote ="Edenmain"Eerm what? read it again..... (our schools aren't up to much either in Hull)'"
You said:
Quote ="Edenmain"The Fuss a aussie international would generate in Hull would be imense! In Manchester or Liverpool? hardly a mention I'd bet, in papers full of football nonsense.'"
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Quote ="Dan_FC"why the fook would an Aussie international signing generate a fuss in Manchester or Liverpool? signing for who exactly?'"
I don't see what's confusing about that. I don't understand why you are comparing the reaction to the signing of an Aussie in Hull to that in Manchester and Liverpool.
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| We clearly knew we had a problem persuading worldly wise players from all over the UK and the other side of the planet to come to Hull and recognised the need to bring in someone to really articulate all of the great things about us great city
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Didn't Menzies say it put him off because he found out it was the worse place in England to live , not certain but thought he said it'"
So he chose Bradford!!! I once asked our present England coach - How come you choose to travel from the East Riding every day to your job in Bradford - why not live there. His reply 'Have you ever been to Bradford' Open your eyes folks Hull and East Riding is as good and bad as any other place in the World. Rugby Players from Oz can take us or leave us - in the end they come for the money and the experience of a life in another culture.
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| "In Manchester or Liverpool? HARDLY A MENTION I BET, in papers full of football nonsense."
ie:- they wouldn't give a s***
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| Quote ="Edenmain""In Manchester or Liverpool? HARDLY A MENTION I BET, in papers full of football nonsense."
ie:- they wouldn't give a s***'"
Why would they mention it?
tbf the Liverpool Echo does normally give any big news/signings a mention. But it's never going to be headline news is it.
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| never mind.
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| Think the only people who might turn down Hull as a place are players from west of the Pennines, and even then it's more the (to them) far, remote location.
Aussies will look for the best contract offer, and if they want any confirmation about the place, they are more likely to consult other Aussies who've played there than some naff survey in the Sun. And they usually get good reports as most Aussies are very happy in the Hull area.
As for Bradford, it is a truely awful place, the city centre is literally a huge crater, while travelling there from various directions would make you think there was some kind of apartheid operating in this drab miserable place.
Anyone with a reasonable salary and half a brain would live in the nice northern suburbs of Leeds and commute to Bradford in less than half an hour!
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| Stats would show that Wigan isn't a great place with Barrett, Smith and now Riddell getting homesick and not staying the lenghth of their contracts.
My girlfriend used to live there, not a great place but didn't seem bad, though every pub and club are all down the same 100m street. It's like a poor man's Mardi Gras every Saturday night! Fun though!
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| its all about the dosh first and if you have any mates already there second nothing else
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| Quote ="EXPRO"its all about the dosh first and if you have any mates already there second nothing else'"
So you agree then that it's a fallacy when the club claim that Agar is the decisive factor in players deciding to come to us?
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"So you agree then that it's a fallacy when the club claim that Agar is the decisive factor in players deciding to come to us?'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does anyone have any evidence that a player has ever turned down the club because of Hull's reputation as a sheet hole?'"
There might be some behind the hand comments but I think you'd struggle to get anything out of anyone in public.
Geographic reasons for turning down ?? Now there's plenty, unfortunately.
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"So he chose Bradford!!! I once asked our present England coach - How come you choose to travel from the East Riding every day to your job in Bradford - why not live there. His reply 'Have you ever been to Bradford' Open your eyes folks Hull and East Riding is as good and bad as any other place in the World. Rugby Players from Oz can take us or leave us - in the end they come for the money and the experience of a life in another culture.'" We have friends in Bradford Known them from our Berlin days 1963/65 we go on a regular basic They live in Idle There have moved 4 times for reason left out of it They always till me if we are involved in an accident or incident get the police( On the way home) ..They words are we don't know how lucky we are to live in Hull.. If my mate had been in better health they would have moved to Cyprus
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| Quote ="EXPRO"its all about the dosh first and if you have any mates already there second nothing else'"
I'd say trophy potential was at least number 2 TBH.
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