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| You're quite funny, Jimmy. Far too much sense of humour for an FC fan. I smell a rat.
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| Quote ="Edith"If form is temporary and class is permanent, as you're all saying, and Tom is "world class", as you're all saying - Where has he been all season? out of form?
One good game doesn't make a world class player, goes missing too often. Where was he for Leeds first try?'"
Briscoe hasn't had ONE good game. He had loads of good games in 2008/9/10 and 11. Saturday was his best performance this season.
Goes missing too often A winger who will help the forwards out when coming out of his own 20, has the ability to break tackles and is more than adequate in defence. Goes missing?? Behave yourself. If you want an example of going missing, take a look at your own Centre. If you want an example of down right inability to catch, take a look at your own winger.
For Leeds first try, Briscoe was probably in the right place, but a player of his experiance should have been able to anticipate Leeds exemption from the forward pass rule.
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| Just admit it, he's average at best.
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| And that's the end to this debate then!
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| Is he able to put his teeth away?
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| Quote ="Edith"Just admit it, he's average at best.'"
Average = in the middle.
On the basis he has played for is country I doubt he could be classed as average.
Average (or should I say, well below average) is the standard of your retorts / arguement.
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| Briscoe isn't world class, yet.
The deficiencies in his game can be easily ironed out.
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| slight change of subject, if tom did go anybody got any views on lineham? whats he been like in the u20s?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Average = in the middle.
On the basis he has played for is country I doubt he could be classed as average.
Average (or should I say, well below average) is the standard of your retorts / arguement.
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I'm not arguing that any of the Rovers players are better, I'm arguing that he's not world class.
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| Quote ="Edith"I'm not arguing that any of the Rovers players are better, I'm arguing that he's not world class.'"
who is in the superleague? and if you say Charnley and Hall, then Briscoe is every bit as good as those.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Best game of the season....pity he was out of position for Leeds 1st try though.'"
TBF he was far from helped by Crooks rushing out of the line.
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| Quote ="Rocknhulla"who is in the superleague? and if you say Charnley and Hall, then Briscoe is every bit as good as those.'"
Atm he's not as consistent.
Which wingers are world class in any league.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"TBF he was far from helped by Crooks rushing out of the line.'"
Crooks mis-read the play and went for the man he thought was coming through...just a miss-read.Briscoe had been sucked in as well.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"How the hell is Briscoe out of position for there first try??,Leeds have a two on one,he either takes Ablett or stays on BJB and Ablett has a walk in,go watch it again before posting crap.'"
Agreed, same with Sharp for Hall's. Outnumbered, they had the choice of the centre or winger and whichever they picked the other was almost certain to have a walk in.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"How the hell is Briscoe out of position for there first try??,Leeds have a two on one,he either takes Ablett or stays on BJB and Ablett has a walk in,go watch it again before posting crap.'"
Seen it a couple of times and he had been sucked in as well.Bet your going to say Sharp wasnt at fault for Halls try either.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Crooks mis-read the play and went for the man he thought was coming through...just a miss-read.Briscoe had been sucked in as well.'"
The entire defence had, as it did for Hall's. If he'd stuck to the winger Ablett would have gone in and in a much more convertable position. As it was Sinfield missed from the touchline.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Seen it a couple of times and he had been sucked in as well.Bet your going to say Sharp wasnt at fault for Halls try either.'"
I beat him to it.
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| Charnley is the current form winger in the competition and Hall is world class.
That'd be the two England wingers for me, I'd take Luke George & Gelling too.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The entire defence had, as it did for Hall's. If he'd stuck to the winger Ablett would have gone in and in a much more convertable position. As it was Sinfield missed from the touchline.'"
Thought Halls was just very bad defence...Turner was pointing at sharp to say stay out as i have the man with the ball...sharp comes in and it was a easy walk in.......We do have problems with our wingers defending.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I beat him to it.'"
All about opinions and thought Briscoe and Sharp could have done better but we beat them so who cares
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Thought Halls was just very bad defence...Turner was pointing at sharp to say stay out as i have the man with the ball...sharp comes in and it was a easy walk in.......We do have problems with our wingers defending.'"
Turner might have had the man with the ball, but there were another 2 outside of him with only Sharp facing them. Had Sharp stayed out they would have still scored.
I'm not saying we don't have problems on the wings, but I don't think it's the wingers being out of position to blame, as we don't play man to man. When it's a case of multiple players being sucked in it's the system failing further infield rather than the winger IMO. They are doing what the system says they should in the situation, but they have too many men to cover for it to work without an error from the opposition.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"All about opinions and thought Briscoe and Sharp could have done better but we beat them so who cares
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As with my previous post, I'm not saying they perhaps couldn't have done a bit better, but in those situations so long as the opposition don't make a hash of things they should always score from those positions. At least on both occasions they were forced wider and Sinfield missed the conversions as a result.
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| Quote ="Edith"Charnley is the current form winger in the competition and Hall is world class.
That'd be the two England wingers for me, I'd take Luke George & Gelling too.'"
The Kiwi?
Proves how little you know about RL.
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| Quote ="Dave K."The Kiwi?
Proves how little you know about RL.'"
His dad's 2nd wife was from Cambridge and their dog was adopted by people who live up in York, he qualifies on the same basis that Chase does.
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| Quote ="Edith"His dad's 2nd wife was from Cambridge and their dog was adopted by people who live up in York, he qualifies on the same basis that Chase does.'"
I would rather you said, "I don't much about rugby as proven on this thread".
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