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| Quote ="BESTY"You didn't answer the question?'" No I belive I did.
As far as FC fans are concerned why should it matter?
If anything you are better off at the KC than at CP no matter where you sit.
So no I can't see how you being in the West/North will make any diffrence.
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| I never planned to go to this match at CP and I will wait to see the what he arrangements are. I suspect that knowing the KR management it will be done in such a way as to put there supporters into the East stand and push the prices up in the other stands to match CPs price.
Now I know a lot of people will welcome the switch as it will mean they will be able to go now. I have a problem handing my hard earned cash over to an organisation who in recent years tried to destroy my club and at every opportunity taken the urine. No other club in SL acts to other clubs as it does and I for one will need some persuation to go, I will not be alone.
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| Quote ="Ian P"who in recent years tried to destroy my club .'" Again Ian that goes both ways.
But that is another story.
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| Quote ="Ian P"I for one will need some persuation to go, I will not be alone.'"
Easy 2pts
Guaranteed -take @ our expense
What more would you need?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"But again as I said earlier the word 'pettiness' just like the word 'awkward' all depends on your POV.'"
Alright then, you awkward sod, it'd just mean Rovers were being awkward and trying for one-upmanmship.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Again Ian that goes both ways.
But that is another story.'"
No it does not
Our last board kept the mouths shut most of the time and KRs where verciferous to say the least. Your managements has been to point score over FC at every opportunity even if it was not a wise and sensible business decision.
Barry Lilleys attempt to destroy my club will live long in the memory and many of your supporters have a similar views. I have seen your clubs "private fan site" and its views are not condusive to a friendly relationship between the clubs.
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| So it's hkr's home ground for the game, they choose who goes where, if you don't like it don't go.
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| Quote ="Ian P"
Our last board kept the mouths shut most of the time and KRs where verciferous to say the least. Your managements has been to point score over FC at every opportunity even if it was not a wise and sensible business decision.
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My opinion is you're reading into actions what you perceive, but I can see why you would and you may well be correct.
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Barry Lilleys attempt to destroy my club will live long in the memory and many of your supporters have a similar views. I have seen your clubs "private fan site" and its views are not condusive to a friendly relationship between the clubs.'"
I can understand Hull fans being annoyed about that, as for the idiot board, well, it's mainly mouth breathing knuckle draggers on there, not that I've been on, I hear about it from Hull fans mainly!
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I couldn't give a toss where people "want" to sit. It's not our fixture and their won't be a need to stop FC fans sitting in their usual seat as they just won't get the option if the East stand is given to Rovers season ticket holders then it's sold out. If the choice is the zebrugge end at Craven Park (or not even being able to go at all) or the West upper/North at the KC then just thank your lucky stars and stop moaning about it. Its Rovers fixture so if we agree to them using the KC they should be able to allocate the seating as they see fit.'"
Not moaning . Can't see how they'd implement it, that's all.
The passholders argument is valid. The East stand does have a 6000 capacity so would be Ok to allocate that if all Rovers passholders were happy to be there. But surely, as the home side, the Rovers powers that be would want the West stand with it's "best" hospitality facilities. Can't have both if the aim is to maximize the financial potential for the match. Plus, on this note, they need to keep the Hull fans happy.
The [isensible[/i thing would be for Rovers to "see fit" to allocate us East and South and employ the best West stand together with the North stand for themselves.
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| Quote ="Standee"for clarification, Unwashed are students!'"
He's been far from Mild today, Standee.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"The passholders argument is valid. The East stand does have a 6000 capacity so would be Ok to allocate that if all Rovers passholders were happy to be there. But surely, as the home side, the Rovers powers that be would want the West stand with it's "best" hospitality facilities. Can't have both if the aim is to maximize the financial potential for the match.'"
Why would having the Rovers fans in the East Stand have any impact on the use of the hospitality facilities in the West Stand?
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| Quote ="Ian P"No it does not
Our last board kept the mouths shut most of the time and KRs where verciferous to say the least. Your managements has been to point score over FC at every opportunity even if it was not a wise and sensible business decision.
Barry Lilleys attempt to destroy my club will live long in the memory and many of your supporters have a similar views. I have seen your clubs "private fan site" and its views are not condusive to a friendly relationship between the clubs.'" And when Lloyd tried to buy us via the Irish lot with no assurance of the team even existing afterwards?
I'm sure he had the best intentions in mind eh!!
That was the part I was replying to.
Our chairman tried to kill you, Your owner tried to kill us.
Hardly rocket science.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Not moaning
. Can't see how they'd implement it, that's all.
The passholders argument is valid. The East stand does have a 6000 capacity so would be Ok to allocate that if all Rovers passholders were happy to be there. But surely, as the home side, the Rovers powers that be would want the West stand with it's "best" hospitality facilities. Can't have both if the aim is to maximize the financial potential for the match. Plus, on this note, they need to keep the Hull fans happy.
The [isensible[/i thing would be for Rovers to "see fit" to allocate us East and South and employ the best West stand together with the North stand for themselves.'" Why can't Rovers have the East stand and the hospitality facilities in the West as well?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Why would having the Rovers fans in the East Stand have any impact on the use of the hospitality facilities in the West Stand?
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I'm guessing - as the home side - the Rovers board, their hangers on and their paying corporate guests would want to take, rightly, full advantage of the hospitality facilities and cushioned seats.
Would they have the full match atmosphere and experience surrounded by a hostile Hull crowd? Surely they'd prefer to make it a Rovers stand for the day?
Giving both East [iand[/i West to Rovers fans would defeat the money-making point of it all.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I'm guessing - as the home side - the Rovers board, their hangers on and their paying corporate guests would want to take, rightly, full advantage of the hospitality facilities and cushioned seats.
Would they have the full match atmosphere and experience surrounded by a hostile Hull crowd? Surely they'd prefer to make it a Rovers stand for the day?
Giving both East [iand[/i West to Rovers fans would defeat the money-making point of it all.'"
That's a pretty feeble argument TBH. I think you've probably milked this one far enough.
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| Quote ="Kosh"That's a pretty feeble argument TBH. I think you've probably milked this one far enough.'"
Well, let's see .
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| Can't see what the issue is.
Treat it as a Rovers home game, they get to use the corporate stuff (how many away fans use them at the KC when FC are at home?) Sell tickets to FC fans for North as away fans (and West Upper) and let Rovers have the rest (season pass holders show their pass and get in "free"icon_wink.gif.
As long as the club pays the SMC the going rate for use of the facilities, no problem.
Quite how this benefits Rovers financially I can't see but there you go.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Well, let's see
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not sure what makes you think that you'd automatically be offered the same commercial arrangements as a sitting tenant with a negotiated long-term contract and user agreement.'"
I don't. I wouldn't assume anything, the deal could be structured in any number of ways. Does equal and opposite nonsense balance, or is it additive?
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I thought we were all united in our disdain for your old board now. Pearson's said harsher things than Hudgell ever did.
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| More importantly, will the sports bar be only open to FC pass holders or will it be for Rovers pass holders only
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Impossible to organize. Tickets will be issued from the KC ticket office for anyone to buy. East and South stand Hull passholders will obviously try to buy their own seats resulting in two mixed stands. The police nor the SMC won't have that on that sort of scale.
Short of being asked to prove which team you support when buying your tickets (again, impossible) the only sensible option is to give Rovers West and North and us keep East and South.
Viewing-wise there's no difference anyway, for Rovers to want the opposite would be pure pettiness and "one-upmanship".'"
They could easily give Rovers the East/South tickets and give Hull the North/South and each club sell their own tickets. Like I said I honestly don't care, it's not our home game so we have no right to demand to sit anywhere. Wherever it is it will be better than CP.
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| Who gives a monkeys where we are sat in the KC as it would be an away game for us. However as Rovers fans continually keep telling us that we don't create an atmosphere why would they want to move us?
Would think Rovers would prefer an all West stand as they would (I imagine) have their corporate clients to cater for as a starter but knowing Grudgell he'll decide that they'll take the East, West & South Stand for HKR and Hull FC the North Stand alone then any extras if the North Stand sells out shoved somewhere like the upper west corners.
Makes no odds where I sit.
Whether it pays off for Grudge & Co. remains to be seen.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"They could easily give Rovers the East/South tickets and give Hull the North/South and each club sell their own tickets. Like I said I honestly don't care, it's not our home game so we have no right to demand to sit anywhere. Wherever it is it will be better than CP.'"
All KC tickets have to be sold through the SMC ticket office.
Can see them giving the East stand to the 6000 Rovers passholders, though, although West stand lower also has a 6000 capacity.
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| way I see it, if they can't acommodate to the demands of hosting a game, and need to change it t playing at the home of whoever they're playing in said game, then it's an away game.
If we really must, give em west stand, a packed to the rafters east stand will do for me! plenty of noise.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"All KC tickets have to be sold through the SMC ticket office.
Can see them giving the East stand to the 6000 Rovers passholders, though, although West stand lower also has a 6000 capacity.'"
All tickets don't have to be sold through the SMC ticket office. We send batches to away clubs all the time. Rovers just get the full East and South stand as a batch to sell. Whatever they don't sell they lose out on. We can then point and laugh when they can't sell them out.
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