Or brent webb, or some no name aussie at wigan.

If eh were naywhere near good enough wire would keep hold as he could be around for the next 6 or 7 years as opposed to the risky signing of an ageing aussie who takes up a quota space

100% with you on this one. The likes of Leeds, Wigan and now Wire have ultimately decided that Mathers is not the FB to kick-on with. If we were to sign Mathers, i think it's a clear statement of us not wanting, or not knowing, how to crowbar our way into the top 4.

Leeds didn't release Mathers he choose to leave to go to the NRL, was very good for Leeds while there and this season seems to be getting that form back.

Sometimes clubs make mistakes in releasing players, I think that warrington will be making a mistake if they release him, and hopfully we will take advantage.

Reminds me of the late 90's when we used to convince ourselves that cast offs from top clubs were worth having

What like Carvell, Raynor and Tickle?

Late 90's?

Any of those play for 3 decent SL sides before they joined?

90% of the players in SL are other teams cast offs if your gonna looka at it like that.

My definition of a cast off is someone who's on his 4th team by his mid 20's and never stays anywhere for more than a year or 2.

Players naturally move. If mathers is released then that's 2 clubs who have seen fit to get rid of him beofre his contract ended

Well Mathers is not doing any harm to Wire is he, playing well for them and they are 2nd in the league.

I believe there is only one player in SL era that isnt a cast off of some kind!!
Cant remember who it was though!

Keiron Cunningham, played every season of S/L for Saints?????

Tommy Saxton. We beat off countless teams to sign the next Keith Senior.

You could be correct there , did he come through their junior ranks??
I was thinking Senior but I then remembered he started at Sheffield

Poor lad, even his own team mates called him "knock on tommy"

talking of past players , Peter Lupton is doing ok at present isnt he, looks like he has found some great form, always liked Peter but dont know why his nickname was "merrick"

guess Sinfield is an Oldham cast off then



and Peacock a Bradfud cast off.

Always thought Lupton had a good rugby brain and decent hands. Unfortunate with the timing of his injury and Brough taking his chance.

Agree with that. Always liked Luppo as a player, though he has been a tad injury prone over the years.

Where's that post gone

Mr Crabtree is nobodies cast off.

Yes neither are Richard Hone or Yeamo or Danny Houghton afaik...

Thats what my dog says.

sorry I meant to mean in the whole of SL era, not just at any time
sorry I misslead you unintentionally...
Only the oldest SL players would come into what I was trying to get across , sorry didnt make it clear, still suffering red wine overload

Might be 1st if they didn't have him

People of a nervous disposition should avoid Reading the first comment on the "Graham to Leeds" thread on the Saints board.

Not a rumour, but I think Matty Smith is OOC at the end of the year.
Would he be worth a look?