Were up there with the the best teams in the league merchandise/pass sales and shirt sales, which I think is great. Its just time now to spend abit of cash on the coaching staff and team...I dont want agars head on a plate or anything, infact I dont mind the bloke....I think we deserve a shot a the trophies and if that means spending some wonga then so be it!

Dont be soo fecking stupid. We will never go out of business. Anyway one says we will are talking utter e of Rulesque magnitude and are just trying to scare people.

You keep losing money eventually you go out of business. We have been there once and i have no desire to see my club go there again.

How many hours away were they in the Lloyd era? What makes you so confident they'll be so fortunate should there be a next time?

At the moment Hull FC are probably in their best financial state for many a year yet the playing side is very amateur. The club and its upper management are not interested in success on the filed and never will be. Money is everything with them and by the sounds of it, it is with a lot of supporters. I guarantee that a club in debt and losing money will win Super League this season and in a way hope its Rovers so the rest of the bend over merchants actually realise that big changes are needed at Hull FC from top to bottom for it to become successful ON THE FIELD again.

The club are spending money on the team! They've paid out two transfers fees for Tansey & Westerman in the past two seasons, and are operating at maximum cap. A problem is that our squad doesn't reflect one at maximum cap, probably because we're paying players more than we're getting in return (Horne, Yeaman, Long etc). We've been in for players like Myler and Fielden, enquired about Sammut - that's not showing a lack of ambition, there simply aren't that many top players available.

With regards to the coaching set-up, the board have sacked the previous two coaches, so maybe they're changing tact and giving a coach some time! I think they believe that Agar's the man for the job, rather than them being tight with the cash. I agree that the rugby we've seen has been awful, and hopefully we'll see an improvement next year. 2011 is Agar's make or break season IMO, it's his squad now, and three years should be enough time to get them playing to their potential.

The board have set up the link with the academy (the 1st of its kind), introduced the jets program and are still working towards building the new training facility.

Record merchandise sales, profits every year, record pass sales etc etc etc - we could only dream of this 10 years ago.

We're in a much better position than just about every other club in the country. If anyone is to be blamed, it's not the board I'm afraid. The coach and the players need to play to pull their fingers out and play to their potential.

Are you suggesting we start to lose money?

We can only spend £1.65m on the cap and have spent a large amount on Westerman.

Complete bollox. Why do you bother going? Oh, I forgot, you don't.

Seriously - does anybody have any rumours? Wouldn't this soul-searching be better done when your squad is finalised (shortly, I'd assume)? There must be something in the pipeline or you wouldn't have loaned out Burnett.

Very well said

Moderate your own board!!!

SACK THE BOARD!!!





Very well put I must add.

Cooper Cronk

You do talk a lot of sense at times, you do know it won't go down well on here dont you?

We don't have McManus/Lenegan/Moran on board. We lose money, the club folds. It's that simple. How short is your memory, exactly?

Just don't think people are making the most of speculating over your New Years present(s). I think I'm more excited than some of you - and I want it to be somebody rubbish.

No one to moderate at the moment, no debate, just differing levels of extreme optimism and unadulterated excitement about Mason.

Excellent post and spot on.

At least Agar can't argue about not been backed by the board as he has had alot more given to him then previous coaches. So its in his hands for us to perform.

Not been following us long, then?

We just like smiling. Smiling is our favourite.

Agar says in RL Express no players of quality available. Still looking .

Rumour has it that only clubs that lose money can be successful on the pitch, and that no matter how much money a club loses it will never go out of business. You should rejoice.

Smokescreen - he said you weren't interested in Westerman didn't he? If you hadn't loaned out Burnett I'd maybe buy it - but you have, so I don't.

We'll see, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't sign anyone.

Could be a smokescreen. For the sake of the sanity of quite a few posters on this forum , lets hope it is !