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| Sounds like we will be getting a player who gives 100% effort. Nothing breaking at this end yet, but I guess its not signed sealed and delivered. Still young enough to kick on a bit as a prop. One thing Betts seem to be good at is developing players and he will love Johnsons attitude! All of our young props have really improved, including Phil Joseph, who perhaps wasn't so young. The only failure was Ben Davies who had the skills but not the attitude!
So sounds like a good bit of business for both of us!
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| Quote ="WirralViking"Sounds like we will be getting a player who gives 100% effort. Nothing breaking at this end yet, but I guess its not signed sealed and delivered. Still young enough to kick on a bit as a prop. One thing Betts seem to be good at is developing players and he will love Johnsons attitude! All of our young props have really improved, including Phil Joseph, who perhaps wasn't so young. The only failure was Ben Davies who had the skills but not the attitude!
So sounds like a good bit of business for both of us!'"
Betts likes players with a good work ethic and team players.Not signed many top marquee signing but you dont need that to be a success.Widnes will do well if buy alot of hard workers and not many teams will find it easy at the Widnes stadium.Hope he does well for Widnes.
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| Reminded me of Matty Shultz. Full of heart always gave 100% but just lacks that bit of size and aggression. Good luck to him.
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| Not good enough to take us forward. It seems over the last two seasons the club have been handing out really silly deals to average players, I assume that fell under McRae who many fans still hold in high regard, I'd question that!!
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| Interesting to read AP's comments in HDM about the players calling out for strong management and with Radford now in position they'll get it. His opinion of Gentle's methods must have had a massive shift since offering the contract extension at the start of last season.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Not good enough to take us forward. It seems over the last two seasons the club have been handing out really silly deals to average players, I assume that fell under McRae who many fans still hold in high regard, I'd question that!!'"
I questioned the fact we seem to have a heavy reliance on people with Howes as an agent and do wonder if McRae was a little too pally with him and taken his eye off the ball so to speak.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I questioned the fact we seem to have a heavy reliance on people with Howes as an agent and do wonder if McRae was a little too pally with him and taken his eye off the ball so to speak.'"
Seems foolish for the club to limit themselves with just one agent .
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| Quote ="Largeparts"Interesting to read AP's comments in HDM about the players calling out for strong management and with Radford now in position they'll get it. His opinion of Gentle's methods must have had a massive shift since offering the contract extension at the start of last season.'"
Possibly around the beginning of August?
[urlhttp://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/330738/EXCLUSIVE-Hull-FC-s-Peter-Gentle-will-be-sacked[/url
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| Quote ="Largeparts"Interesting to read AP's comments in HDM about the players calling out for strong management and with Radford now in position they'll get it. His opinion of Gentle's methods must have had a massive shift since offering the contract extension at the start of last season.'"
the only strong management coming out of the KC is coming from AP himself, im just wondering if hes pulling Radfords strings?
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| McGoldrick has been released by Salford, Koukash quoted as waiting for clubs to accept terms for other signings, wonder if any FC players in their sights.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"the only strong management coming out of the KC is coming from AP himself, im just wondering if hes pulling Radfords strings?'"
This is what I think, seems that in AP's assessment a local lad will help retain some of the season pass sales that I think we'll be losing.
The damage done in that Hudds game is almost immeasurable, I mean IF we had lost but put up a decent showing then we could say we actually had a decent season (final appearance, 6th and one play-off win) one which on balance was actually better than Saints AND Leeds. With that type of loss I'm starting to think that this could have been a ploy from within to get rid of PG.
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| Quote ="Standee"McGoldrick has been released by Salford, Koukash quoted as waiting for clubs to accept terms for other signings, wonder if any FC players in their sights.'"
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| Right decision to let Johnson go, has not made enough of an impact, lack of size seems to be the issue.
Probably more to follow.
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| Hopefully Yeaman will be top of the list closely followed by Crookes and Holdsworth.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Hopefully Yeaman will be top of the list closely followed by Crookes and Holdsworth.'"
Not saying your wrong but where would we sign a centre, 2 wingers and a good halfback from to replace them?
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Not saying your wrong but where would we sign a centre, 2 wingers and a good halfback from to replace them?'"
Other clubs seem to manage it without any problems. Wakefield can go and get Collis, Catalan sign Millard, Salford sign Moon, Bradford had Lulia etc..etc... We just keep giving Yeaman contract extensions.
We spent god knows how much time in the national press talking to Rangi Chase, Koukash one year later clicks his fingers and as if by magic, he's got a Salford shirt on.
Good wingers are all over Super League, just about every club has them but we thought it was a great idea to sign Jason Crookes on an ascending contract. He was bad enough this season but in 2014 he'll be on even more money! MAGIC!!!!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"We spent god knows how much time in the national press talking to Rangi Chase, Koukash one year later clicks his fingers and as if by magic, he's got a Salford shirt on.'"
How long did we REALLY spend on Chase? Not paper talk, REALLY.
Quote Good wingers are all over Super League, just about every club has them but we thought it was a great idea to sign Jason Crookes on an ascending contract. He was bad enough this season but in 2014 he'll be on even more money! MAGIC!!!!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
We spent god knows how much time in the national press talking to Rangi Chase, Koukash one year later clicks his fingers and as if by magic, he's got a Salford shirt on.
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Has chase actually got his visa to play for Salford??
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| Quote ="heard1989"Has chase actually got his visa to play for Salford??'"
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Hopefully Yeaman will be top of the list closely followed by Crookes and Holdsworth.'"
Yeaman's been stealing a living for quite some time now. I'd release him.
Crookes I'd be tempted to keep for 12 months and see how we go. We have cover there.
In all honesty, I'd chuck Holdsworth out and get McGoldrick. He proved he had that bit of grunt, setup some great tries and didn't look clueless in the 20. He can also cover fullback. A good, old-fashioned RL player for me.
Holdsworth was always a last minute panic-signing when Chase and Prince fell through.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Yeaman's been stealing a living for quite some time now. I'd release him.
Crookes I'd be tempted to keep for 12 months and see how we go. We have cover there.
In all honesty, I'd chuck Holdsworth out and get McGoldrick. He proved he had that bit of grunt, setup some great tries and didn't look clueless in the 20. He can also cover fullback. A good, old-fashioned RL player for me.
Holdsworth was always a last minute panic-signing when Chase and Prince fell through.'"
What a load of BS.
Holdsworth signed 6 weeks before the Prince deal was even mentioned. How many 'last minute, panic signings' are made 6 months before the start of the season?
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Yeaman's been stealing a living for quite some time now. I'd release him.
Crookes I'd be tempted to keep for 12 months and see how we go. We have cover there.
In all honesty, I'd chuck Holdsworth out and get McGoldrick. He proved he had that bit of grunt, setup some great tries and didn't look clueless in the 20. He can also cover fullback. A good, old-fashioned RL player for me.
Holdsworth was always a last minute panic-signing when Chase and Prince fell through.'"
Really? I was told Holdsworth was signed to play with Chase and a deal had been agreed in advance of the close of the 2012 season. And you are suggesting we replace DJ with a utility player who the team who finished with the wooden spoon have now deemed surplus to requirements?!
Wonder what footage the club will put on the website to gee us all up if Goldie did come back. Hopefully him cruising down the M62 on his big ass motorbike!
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| Shows how silly most fans are, they moan and moan at signings saying we aren't signing enough quality.... and then want McGoldrick back
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| Quote ="Panther"Really? I was told Holdsworth was signed to play with Chase and a deal had been agreed in advance of the close of the 2012 season. And you are suggesting we replace DJ with a utility player who the team who finished with the wooden spoon have now deemed surplus to requirements?!
Wonder what footage the club will put on the website to gee us all up if Goldie did come back. Hopefully him cruising down the M62 on his big ass motorbike!
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Shows how silly most fans are, they moan and moan at signings saying we aren't signing enough quality.... and then want McGoldrick back'"
And you clearly haven't been to many games this year.
Holdsworth has looked so far out of his depth, it was embarrassing. McGoldrick made a lot of people (myself included) sit up and change my opinion of him.
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