Just for debate, do we just tolerate what happens to us then and accept it?

Not just Agar though is it. Players never improved under Sharp either, same for Bomber.

Bring back Kear all is forgiven!!

Well he did get the best out of them at times, that said our league form under him was patchy and there were lots of off field issues too.

could do a swap deal with wakey???kear for agar and a player(or 2)

Theres not one of our recent head coaches that i'd take back to be honest. I'd like a Nathan Brown type of coach for 2011.

difficult to pinpoint one tho'? both him and maguire were relative unknowns to the majority of rugby league fans,so would anybody be dissapointed if we went for another aussie no-2???

Peter Sharp was the top Aussie no 2 at the time. I'd say we need to spend the cash and bring an Aussie no 1 in.

or we could just place an ad here. www.rlcm.com.au/employment/positions-vacant Interesting to see that the RFL are recruiting to expand their senior management team with 2 new chief operating officers. Pity they havent decided to invest in the refereeing etc first.

or we could just place an ad here. www.rlcm.com.au/employment/positions-vacant Interesting to see that the RFL are recruiting to expand their senior management team with 2 new chief operating officers. Pity they havent decided to invest in the refereeing etc first.

getting any of them to leave the nrl is the problem!! the decent ones appear to arrive and then declare 'homesick' pleas,and dart home as quick as possible.

That is totally up to the individual/s concerned. Some like to come on here claiming to know better

i know how much it cost me to watch the rubbish served up at murrayfield.to play with a bit of pride and passion is one thing.to go thru the motions is another.

But whats to say they dont? I dont see an issue personally with people using a chat forum to chat about whats going wrong with their club and to speculate about what the solutions might be.

Youre very firmly planted in the camp from reading your previous statement that says we get behind the side and tolerate the mediocrity that as supporters we get dealt. Thats fine by the way, its your opinion and a valid one. Others go to the other end of the scale demanding an immediate dismissal of Agar who they see as a problem. Again, thats fine as their opinion.

My point would be that everyone is entitled to an opinion and actually some people may know better than a clueless coach.

you may laugh but he is officially the only coach two win silverware with us in recent years, has a better record then our 2 previous coaches and turned sh it into sugar at wakefeild, also we never had a injury crisis under him

Now that is a balanced view!! well said and some of it i agree with however to the others may I remind you that my views are simply that MY VIEWS like em or lump em

Manu - Always been a great player when played correctly, Agar has only started to play him in smaller bursts this season :[ushock: kidding right[/u
Briscoe - Not really improved since he came onto the scene :[ushock: I suppose playing for his country isnt improvement??[/u
Tickle - His first season he was much like he has been this season, [uso no real improvement, again apart from international honours[/u
Whiting - Whiting was just as good in 05 and it is only after Agar has seen sense to play him regular that we are seeing more out of him. [uplease!!![/u behave he is having a wow of a season

What about Jason Taylor as a possible coach for us.

He's the one who Fa'alogo apparently punched at the end of season do.

Saying that though I can't see Agar going anywhere until the middle of next season, as I wouldn't be surprised if we have another crap season next and then the board may get rid.

fans still turn up at wakey cas quins and salford?? Have you seen their gates? If we continue to play the way we're playing and the fans can see no prospect of entertaining rugby from a group that shows a passion for the shirt , win or lose , and a coaching set up that they respect , then our gates will fall. Those other less well supported clubs will suffer without our huge away following putting money in their coffers. That sort of complacency can kill the game. It's often easier not to go to a game and that can become a habit. Yes I will probably still turn up , it's almost an addiction after 40 years plus , but you don't pull in new fans with dour rugby (unless it is somehow dour winning rugby and even then..) and gates will fall. What you may see as being negative is simply people taking off the black and white specs and saying what they see not to damage their club but because they care about it.

Long , fitz and tickle fit for saturday just spoke to one of the players

That will help the cause.All we can hope is that Cats cup game took a lot out of them. Hope they can give a good account of themselves for the faithful that have travelled all that way.

Briscoe - Not really improved since he came onto the scene


briscoe is being found out this season.. other teams target him now.

1..cant jump

2..cant catch

3..panics when the "big boys" running at him near line and very rarely stops them if ever

4..found out of position every week..

lets hope agar rubs off on the rest of the players then eh.. the young lad needs some direction and agar (mr motivator and master tactician) can have him down to a average player in no time!!!

Your understanding of the word balanced is un-balanced mate.



Balanced to you means totally pro FC. Anyone stating anything anti-fc isnt seeing anything balanced to you. You do realise that balanced means in the middle dont you, seeing things from both perspectives?

I really dont agree with this cant jump cant catch lark. A cross field kick is nearly a 50 - 50 outcome depending on how good the kick is sometimes it even favours the attacker. What i would like to see more is more protection to all players on kicks. Instead of standing about waiting for the said player to challenge for the ball, maybe they could rush into the try line incase a boucne goes wrong.

Manu - You saying he wasn't good when he wasn't run ragged by Agar having to lay 80 minutes last season???

Briscoe - Not really improved since bursting onto the scene. So again no credit for Agar

Tickle - 1 cap, he played a massive part in Englands progress to the final..... oh no thats right he didn't. He is playing like he played in his first season for us.

Whiting - Whiting was just as good in 05 and it is only after Agar has seen sense to play him regular that we are seeing more out of him.

Or do you not remember when the players put in good performances on a regular basis??

Or Jason Taylor (ex Souths)