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| I'll be relenting and picking up passes for me and my daughter when I get home. I probably always was going to despite flirting with notion of withdrawal.
I can't, with integrity, criticism the club and it's spending if I don't do my little bit.
Loving the noise and tone of the new Head Coach. It's certainly what we've been craving.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Think his community reference is to Penrith not Paramatta who are actually bitter derby rivals in the western Sydney area. Cartwright's nephew Bryce currently plays for Parra having started his career like his uncle at Penrith as did Jed Cartwright.
I was a season ticket holder at Penrith from 2000 to 2023 before moving to the NSW North coast.'"
Yes my error as I meant Penrith.
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Had a chat with him in my local and he certainly seems like a guy that knows what he’s doin, has a real structured plan and do feel as that if he can’t get a tune out the club then no one will.
I certainly wouldn’t fancy getting in the wrong side of him as he’s a pretty big unit.
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Had a chat with him in my local and he certainly seems like a guy that knows what he’s doin, has a real structured plan and do feel as that if he can’t get a tune out the club then no one will.
I certainly wouldn’t fancy getting in the wrong side of him as he’s a pretty big unit.
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| Reminds me a bit of Peter Sharpe…a tough no nonsense Aussie…he got a team playing well,took us to a G/F and was very unfairly sacked…if Carty can get them going like that,apart from the sacking,then tat will do us.
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| Quote ="The games afoot"Reminds me a bit of Peter Sharpe…a tough no nonsense Aussie…he got a team playing well,took us to a G/F and was very unfairly sacked…if Carty can get them going like that,apart from the sacking,then tat will do us.'"
Hopefully we're past the era of player power ruling the roost too where the start to throw their toys out of the pram if things get a bit too tough and professional for their liking
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| Like at least 6 thousand others I've already renewed passes for me and 2 grandkids. The words we're hearing from our new man give me some hope that the good days can return. God help those who don't buy into his ways as he comes across as a real tough cookie. Roll on February.
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| Feel for Walker a bit but he finds himself in no man's land with a veteran international signed to play him position and a young player deemed the pretender to him position also.
I hope they all find themselves a club soon.
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| Time the club finally got ruthless.....aspire to be like Wigan and saints then think like them....knowing when to offload players that are past their best/not good enough
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| Whilst it's not great for them, all 3 have known for a while they aren't wanted here. I would think tindall and walker are on way more than they should be so we will likely have to pay them off a chunk or subsidise their salary elsewhere. Surprised walker hasn't been picked up yet but I guess most clubs have a first choice FB in place. maybe leigh need one since moylan and hardaker left the building.
tindall has another 2 years on his contract I think. Another costly mistake by smith and clarke. God knows how much money we have wasted on poor recruitment decisions in recent years. When you think about last season then throw in the likes of reynolds and gale, it must run into 7 figures comfortably
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| Quote ="number 6"Time the club finally got ruthless.....aspire to be like Wigan and saints then think like them....knowing when to offload players that are past their best/not good enough'"
It's a fine line though. You don't want to be seen as a club who bins players off early randomly. What has walker done wrong in his time at Hull to be side lined like this? We certainly looked a lot better last season when he played. I guess the issue there is that he's blighted by injuries
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| Good luck to all three. Tindall just not Super League standard ufortuantely. Smith proably stopped us finishing bottom but again not the standard we should be aiming for. I like Walker, he has a bit of X Factor about him but ultimately he's not first choice in any position and there are issues with his injury record.
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc-looking-further-exit-9684952
Correct call.'"
It’s been known for a while that all 3 have been offered about to clubs but it’s a bold move if they won’t be given squad numbers and not allowed to be part of the squad if they don’t find a move. People will say it’s positive that the club are being ruthless I can see why that’s a good thing but it’s also a balance keeping players and agents onside.
Walker would still be one of our better players and him and Smith certainly don’t deserve the naughty step treatment IMO, although I don’t claim to know what goes on behind closed doors. Hopefully we are forcing the issue because we’ve got players lined up we want to bring in just don’t see who would be available.
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| That is a fair chunk of cap that's been made available, setting our sights on a big domestic arrival?
Glad we are running with a 30 man squad this season, thought it was a bit ridiculous running with a 40 man one last time round.
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"It’s been known for a while that all 3 have been offered about to clubs but it’s a bold move if they won’t be given squad numbers and not allowed to be part of the squad if they don’t find a move. People will say it’s positive that the club are being ruthless I can see why that’s a good thing but it’s also a balance keeping players and agents onside.
Walker would still be one of our better players and him and Smith certainly don’t deserve the naughty step treatment IMO, although I don’t claim to know what goes on behind closed doors. Hopefully we are forcing the issue because we’ve got players lined up we want to bring in just don’t see who would be available.'"
The key reason they won't be given squad numbers is because they don't count on the cap if we don't.
They all play in positions where we have cover and we have a need for players elsewhere so it's ultimately a matter of cap management.
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| Good call , If only the club had been more decisive in previous seasons , Good luck to all three players .
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"That is a fair chunk of cap that's been made available, setting our sights on a big domestic arrival?
Glad we are running with a 30 man squad this season, thought it was a bit ridiculous running with a 40 man one last time round.'"
The article says they don't count on the cap so it's irrelevant to our cap spending ability whether they stay or go
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"It’s been known for a while that all 3 have been offered about to clubs but it’s a bold move if they won’t be given squad numbers and not allowed to be part of the squad if they don’t find a move. People will say it’s positive that the club are being ruthless I can see why that’s a good thing but it’s also a balance keeping players and agents onside.
Walker would still be one of our better players and him and Smith certainly don’t deserve the naughty step treatment IMO, although I don’t claim to know what goes on behind closed doors. Hopefully we are forcing the issue because we’ve got players lined up we want to bring in just don’t see who would be available.'"
No point us keeping players who aren't good enough and we've already replaced. Tindall and Smith are championship players, Walker stood injury prone to be first choice.
Craig Harrison has stitched us up with plenty of duds recently. We've moved a few of his clients on in the past 12/18 months. He's an agent who has taken advantage of a naive CEO and owner.
Walker, Sutcliffe, Trueman, Tindall are all his players. No coincidence he was bigging the club up when Clarke was here, now he's left and Myler is moving on his high earning and underperforming players he's spat his dummy out in the media.
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| Nearly every article at the moment mentions we're still looking to bring in an additional forward. Makes me think we might be in talks with somebody at the moment.
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| All three will be on wages that reflect they should be in 17, maybe walker should be, but not sure he offers value for money (I know we have signed a few that are risks).
But those not counting on the cap, must give us a decent chunk of cap, so I'd hope for a decent calibre of forward like Sutton, Byrne or Bateman.
Shame we can't move Sao on and bring in a centre too. Although then we would need two forwards.
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| Quote ="Dave K."All three will be on wages that reflect they should be in 17, maybe walker should be, but not sure he offers value for money (I know we have signed a few that are risks).
But those not counting on the cap, must give us a decent chunk of cap, so I'd hope for a decent calibre of forward like Sutton, Byrne or Bateman.
Shame we can't move Sao on and bring in a centre too. Although then we would need two forwards.'"
I would guess them moving on is already factored into our recruitment. I'd be surprised if we have a large amount of cap space left, certainly not enough to bring in a top class player
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| Quote ="mwindass"No point us keeping players who aren't good enough and we've already replaced. Tindall and Smith are championship players, Walker stood injury prone to be first choice.
Craig Harrison has stitched us up with plenty of duds recently. We've moved a few of his clients on in the past 12/18 months. He's an agent who has taken advantage of a naive CEO and owner.
Walker, Sutcliffe, Trueman, Tindall are all his players. No coincidence he was bigging the club up when Clarke was here, now he's left and Myler is moving on his high earning and underperforming players he's spat his dummy out in the media.'"
But we will be keeping them unless someone matches the wages they’re on.
I’m not saying I disagree with what they’re doing but it’s easy for fans to say stuff like ‘it’s about time we was ruthless with players’ when as someone has already pointed out there’s always a fine line when it comes to agents and reputation amongst players. FWIW I think Harrison still talks well about Hull whenever I’ve heard him speak and represents the likes of Lewis Martin.
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| My thoughts echo what a lot of others are saying. Tough on the players but the right call by the club. It was hard to see where they fit into the new look squad. Walker aside, they aren't really the standard we need to be aiming for, and the thing that counts against Walker is his injury record.
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