When we signed Obst we only wanted to give him a year but he wouldn't come for less than 2. I reckon we will try and offload him, as clearly he will be surpluss to requirements

Because otherwise it's poor salary cap management and you end up with a squad full of 25 average players again.

Welcome to 2012

Berrigan's advice to Seymour "There's a great bar in Hessle, and even though you earn £140k a year they fall over themselves to buy your beer, just ask if JB is in, he'll show you the ropes"

Seymour is tee-total now.

McKinnon will miss lots of games with his dodgy hamstrings and I think Agar will use Horne as his reserve fullback, so Obst will then be the reserve halfback, given the fact that his game is years ahead of Ellis.

Because we've got one back up player?

The clubs been accused of not having enough half back options for years, now we've got a few their wasting the cap.

I really hope not, Ellis and Nicklas are halfback's Obst isn't.

Nope. The exemption only removes a player from the Non Fed list, and anyone can apply regardless of passport provided they were in SL before 2008.

It would be a option.

Personnely I'd have Whiting covering fb,if Hornes fit he plays 6.

I agree. Horne has done ok this season and is worth another year. We should try and sell Obst if possible, I think he's a decent player and a really good guy to have around the place due to his enthusiasm/he seems like a good laugh, but there's no place for sentiment in sport.

Also, the HDM suggests Long would be willing to stay on a pay-as-you-play deal. Any takers?

Thank you, I am getting there slowly.

I'd be happy with either Whiting or Horne covering fullback. I think both those players are taken for granted to some extent by Hull fans. I think we'd appreciate them more watching them play for other teams.

Regarding Ellis, at this stage of his career he is nowhere near as good as Obst at anything other than kicking. I think it's important we don't big him up into something he isn't before he's here. Such expectations have ruined many a player for us!

according to the press, maybe, we shall see. What else is he going to do in Hessle on a Tuesday night, watch Corrie?

That is absolutely spot on IMO



If we lose Obst then we still have plenty of options for 6 & 7. We could do with another forward, Scruton perhaps.

Here's a question for you though... What happened to Lawrence Pearce?

depending on cap space then id be happy for obst to stay and give us some real depth and competition for places in the halves and hooker but we do need at leaste 1 forward most probable 2 so if we aint got the space then obst may have to go.
in
mickinnon
heremia
ellis
seymour
paul johnson?
mark flanagan?
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fitz
long
washy
burnett
phelps
lauaki

Well we need a forward or two so keeping Obst and offering Long a pay as you play deal seems like madness, we would have four SH's.

Unless Horne is not staying and Seymour is gonna play 6? I doubt that though.

As for fullback, Whiting can cover that position if Wade gets injured.

Pearce has been getting some good reviews in the U20's.

hands off

signed a new 3yr deal at bradford a couple off months back.

6. Horne/Turner/Nicklas
7. Seymour/Ellis
9. Houghton/Heremaia/Newton

We don't need Long or Obst IMO. Nicklas has missed most of 2011 so next season it will like getting a new player - and the kid needs game time! Our backup players i.e. Ellis and Nicklas need more than 3 or 4 games a season to develop. Losing Obst and Long could make way for a decent forward

fairplay, i would have liked to have seen him at hull

Obst is under contract, he isn't going to just walk away, and who is going to want him that will pay more than we do?

I'd rather not renew Horne's contract and keep Obst.

Horne is a far better 6 than Obst, it's not even close.

You would rather keep an ageing Obst who's best position is hooker, where we now have Heremaia and Houghton, rather than Horne, who has had a pretty decent season given the changes we have had in the halves, is 4 years younger and is capable of filling in at full back effectively??

depends on the terms, as it stands Obst is under contract, Horne isn't