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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Is it the coaches job to build a whole structure with the club? People like Waites at Catalan are brought in to do that role?'"
I'd certainly say it's the coaches job to put in place anything to do with playing matters and I don't think any first time coach has the necessary experience to do that well at any big club
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'd certainly say it's the coaches job to put in place anything to do with playing matters and I don't think any first time coach has the necessary experience to do that well at any big club'"
Playing matters of the first team I agree and certainly liaising with other set ups would be advantageous but the first team coach can't do the whole job himself. I got the feeling Sandercock was attempting to cover the whole set up, far to much for one man.
Not sure who the other people are at some other clubs but I'm sure they will employ a director of rugby etc.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Playing matters of the first team I agree and certainly liaising with other set ups would be advantageous but the first team coach can't do the whole job himself. I got the feeling Sandercock was attempting to cover the whole set up, far to much for one man.
Not sure who the other people are at some other clubs but I'm sure they will employ a director of rugby etc.'"
We have Motu Tony in that role, (B)Radford has no excuses, he simply isn't capable.
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| Quote ="Standee"We have Motu Tony in that role, (B)Radford has no excuses, he simply isn't capable.'"
I was shocked at his appointment, just seemed another 'job for the boys', even more so when he ain't qualified for the role. I know Radford is taking huge stick and it's probably justifiable at the mo, with people crying out for an experienced coach, surely dumping Motu and bringing in a very experienced head in that role would help the club from top to bottom.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I was shocked at his appointment, just seemed another 'job for the boys', even more so when he ain't qualified for the role. I know Radford is taking huge stick and it's probably justifiable at the mo, with people crying out for an experienced coach, surely dumping Motu and bringing in a very experienced head in that role would help the club from top to bottom.'"
I agree 100%, we seem to be a very much "jobs for the boys" club nowadays, which is disheartening!
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| Motu seems to be escaping the criticism, I'm not sure why!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Motu seems to be escaping the criticism, I'm not sure why!'"
he hasn't signed most of the players that's why, most of the 'wasted' salary cap was signed by McRae. The Carvell situation was a farce though I admit.
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| Quote ="UllFC"he hasn't signed most of the players that's why, most of the 'wasted' salary cap was signed by McRae. The Carvell situation was a farce though I admit.'"
He should be helping out Radford with the first team! Where are his leadership qualities? What experience does he have developing and setting up structures throughout a club? I bet he doing jack s**t for his money!
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| Quote ="Standee"Strikes me that Murdoch is Radfords' mate...'"
Nowt to do with it. Doc has been against sacking every single coach we've got rid of for as long as I can remember.
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| BTW I can't believe that anyone is actually engaging with one of the most obvious and long-standing Rovers trolls on the site. The Pumpkin is not to be taken seriously. Ever. And if you should ever find yourself nodding in agreement with one of his posts it's time to take yourself offline and have a word with yourself.
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| I can see where the "doc" is coming from and he is to a point right.
Trouble is Radford's appointment comes on the back of a series of bad ones and possibly the worst one.
Give him a bit longer ? that's up to AP, but if this is allowed to go on much more AP will have halve the fans he has now coming through the turnstiles. Fans have had enough of jam tommorow, next week, next month , next season etc etc I know of a lot who after Thursday will not bother with FC for the derby even its the only way to get through to them.
Being faithful is ok, but perhaps staying away now might be more faithful then blindly supporting a club with its head so far up its rectum to see its failing in every way now.
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| Quote ="UllFC"he hasn't signed most of the players that's why, most of the 'wasted' salary cap was signed by McRae. The Carvell situation was a farce though I admit.'" Why? We had long term injury problems and Carvell should have strengthened the squad.
He too ended up injured, but Castleford, with the best ever coach in SuperLeague seem to think he's worth it.
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| Quote ="ccs"Why? We had long term injury problems and Carvell should have strengthened the squad.
He too ended up injured, but Castleford, with the best ever coach in SuperLeague seem to think he's worth it.'"
Carvell was never injured . I posted on here not long after his last game that he wouldn't play for us again as he had walked out I was told . As usually on here I got shot down in flames , but it turned out to be true as he's never played since . The injury was just to cover up what had gone on .
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| Quote ="Ian P"Give him a bit longer ? that's up to AP, but if this is allowed to go on much more AP will have halve the fans he has now coming through the turnstiles.'"
That seems rather unlikely.
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"Carvell was never injured . I posted on here not long after his last game that he wouldn't play for us again as he had walked out I was told . As usually on here I got shot down in flames , but it turned out to be true as he's never played since . The injury was just to cover up what had gone on .'"
Carvell must have been part of the conspiracy then....
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Just knee cartlidge repair and clean out, good as new in no time'"
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That's not an injury . Most players have a clean out amytime that suits them . And that's when it probably suited carvell best , knowing he wasn't going to be playing .
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"That's not an injury . Most players have a clean out amytime that suits them . And that's when it probably suited carvell best , knowing he wasn't going to be playing .'" Ah... so when Carvell said he was "busted", he really meant that he was 100% fit and raring to go.
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| Quote ="ccs"Why? We had long term injury problems and Carvell should have strengthened the squad.
He too ended up injured, but Castleford, with the best ever coach in SuperLeague seem to think he's worth it.'"
Carvell's has always had injury problems, he was an ill thought out panic buy and the club should have known better.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Carvell's has always had injury problems, he was an ill thought out panic buy and the club should have known better.'" 134 games in 5 seasons at Warrington doesn't sound too bad to me.
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| Quote ="ccs"Ah... so when Carvell said he was "busted", he really meant that he was 100% fit and raring to go.'"
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"Thought of another one: Danny Nicklas.'"
as has heremaia (though he's not a halfback)
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| Quote ="UllFC"Carvell's has always had injury problems, he was an ill thought out panic buy and the club should have known better.'"
The only season since 2001 that he missed a significant number of games was 2008. Apart from that he's played 20+ games every year.
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| My only issue with Carvell is now that the Mail have said we spent a "heavy chunk" of the cap to bring him in only as injury cover. I think that was bad management from the club. You don't use large amounts of money on someone who will only be a cover player. We should have been looking to bring someone in on loan instead IMO.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Motu seems to be escaping the criticism, I'm not sure why!'"
Indeed. Its since BOTH Radford AND Motu took over that weve gone into freefall
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| It's obvious that there is a big rebuilding job to be done at the club and continuity is important but the problem is pearson hasn't brought in a master builder, he's brought in the apprentice we've had kicking around for a couple of years. I've said since before agar was appointed that the rebuilding job at the club is too big for an inexperienced coach and no surprise that the last 3 coaches have struggled as they don't have what is required to do it. radford should be making his mistakes and learning the role at a lower division club, not one of the best supported clubs in the country
I'm not too sure it is the coaches job to re-build the whole club . I think it is vital that for both clubs have an experienced coach who can coach the team and develop the youngsters going forward , these will be the future of both clubs.
I am also not a fan of bringing in Over seas players who are distinctly average what input did Radford have over the current crop of players that have been signed. What we can say is that Overseas recruitment from the halcyon days has been distinctly average , only proven state of origin players should be signed .
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