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| IMO.
Pearson should've conducted personal interviews on a one to one basis(every individual member of staff), to find out the root cause of last seasons problems.
Players and/or Staff, who have contributed to Gentle's demise,should be served notice.
Then,he shouldve scoured the RL world for Gentle's successor, should've appointed a Head Coach, or a Director of Coaching who has at least some experience in Head Coaching, this is not the time for yet another unproven Head Coach.
Terrible terrible appointments. -IMO.
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| I dont see how a Second Rower/Prop and a failed Hooker can give us the fluent and exciting attack we have been missing for a few years
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| Quote ="weaver93"IMO.
Pearson should've conducted personal interviews on a one to one basis(every individual member of staff), to find out the root cause of last seasons problems.
Players and/or Staff, who have contributed to Gentle's demise,should be served notice.
Then,he shouldve scoured the RL world for Gentle's successor, should've appointed a Head Coach, or a Director of Coaching who has at least some experience in Head Coaching, this is not the time for yet another unproven Head Coach.
Terrible terrible appointments. -IMO.'"
Another season or two of "transition" before our new head coach is found to be out of his depth after becoming even more unpopular than he already is.
End of 2015 season and Pearson will have seen his season pass sales fall yet another 2K but at least this time, he won't have to wonder why.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"I can't imagine something so petty ever stopping me from watching RL, but that's just me.'"
You're not alone Barnabus.
Personally, I feel that anyone willing to stop supporting their club over something as petty as this is not really a true supporter. Yes, what Cooke did was bad and it hurt like hell but it was six years ago for crying out loud. Whether you agree with the decision or not (and we don't know as yet that he's coming back remember) you shouldn't turn your back on the club.
Quite frankly if you do turn your back then we can do without your "support".
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I dont see how a Second Rower/Prop and a failed Hooker can give us the fluent and exciting attack we have been missing for a few years'"
But they're both local lads!
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"You promote coaching staff from within when things are going well. If they're going badly you look elsewhere for fresh ideas / change of direction.
Not sure what Pearson is doing here, feels like he's laying the blame squarely with Gentle.'"
Agree with all this.
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| Quote ="easthull4"I can't believe what I am hearing about Hull FC are putting Lee Radford in charge along with Paul Cooke they didn't get on at East Hull ARLFC Radford took him down their to assist him to coach the backs, I believe Radders sacked him after a few weeks because he was useless, now Hull FC are putting them back together to coach proffesional's, Peter Gentle must be rubbing his hands . Adam Pearson should have stuck with soccer he is making a real pigs ear of Rugby league.
Lee Radford was a good amateur coach but his pet lip comes out when things aren't going well, do not know how he will handle super league. Only hope it works out for him and the black and whites but I wouldn't put a bet on it'"
Radford and cooke coached east hull for two or three seasons why do people spout bull
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I dont see how a Second Rower/Prop and a failed Hooker can give us the fluent and exciting attack we have been missing for a few years'"
This!
And a halfback who has failed to set any season alight whilst at the club
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I dont see how a Second Rower/Prop and a failed Hooker can give us the fluent and exciting attack we have been missing for a few years'"
Peter Gentle played for Mansfield Marksman so on that premise we should of been overjoyed by our attacking feats.
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| Hope the new coaching set up works, certainly going to be some passion there, and the Mr nice guy approach of Gentle will be different, more like the Fergie hairdryer treatment I guess.
All the hype worked against PG (as well as some of the players) and it would seem our targets will be more realistic moving forward, with talk of top four etc banned, Will be interesting to see if any players are moved out as part of this root and branch review, as someone mentioned earler the review has been completed very quickly so likely it was taking place with PG still in charge, the CC run probably placing it on hold for a month.
I will be renewing mine & my sons pass, hope a number of doubters reconsider, but can understand why some are disillusioned.
Anyone know what time the press conference is? Is it on FC Live?
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| So Basically AP's trying to follow the Wigan prototype just trying too skip the bit where the assistant had served under a winning coach with a team with structure and stability already in place..
think the season we bring relegation back is hardly time to be giving the reins of the club to a totally untried coaching staff
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| Quote ="GM1"This!
And a halfback who has failed to set any season alight whilst at the club'"
Brain Smith and Tong Smith didn't have a great RL career, both of whom are are good coaches.
I cant believe that people don't realise that your playing ability has nothing to do with how good a coach you are.
So many examples in sport where average players have made great coaches and managers and vice versa.
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| The appointment of Radford I hope will be a good one, he gets my support. Coming from in house the club won't need to find housing, Visa's, Lee can hit the ground running, he knows the club inside/out, he knows the players and the make up of their characters.
Good Luck Lee.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Brain Smith and Tong Smith didn't have a great RL career, both of whom are are good coaches.
I cant believe that people don't realise that your playing ability has nothing to do with how good a coach you are.
So many examples in sport where average players have made great coaches and managers and vice versa.'"
Exactly mate, there's plenty of reasons why I don't think Radders is the right man, this isn't one of them.
Need to just get behind them now.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So after a few days of teeth gnashing and silly comments I assume that folks will now calm down and buy their passes anyway.'"
How many have your lot flogged?
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| Quote ="jacko1"So Basically AP's trying to follow the Wigan prototype just trying too skip the bit where the assistant had served under a winning coach with a team with structure and stability already in place..
think the season we bring relegation back is hardly time to be giving the reins of the club to a totally untried coaching staff'"
I asked the question to AP on FC Live, if Andy Hay would be replaced?
He stated Radford would absorb Hay's role & duties, in other words - not replaced.
Coaching staff is one role ,that has no restrictions on spend.
Wigan have 4/5 coaching staff for each team, 1st, Under 19's, Under 16's. by my maths thats 15 members of staff.
How many have we got??
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| Quote ="Dave K."Brain Smith and Tong Smith didn't have a great RL career, both of whom are are good coaches.
I cant believe that people don't realise that your playing ability has nothing to do with how good a coach you are.
So many examples in sport where average players have made great coaches and managers and vice versa.'"
Well if that's the case, we may as well sign Tom Saxton and Fili Seru as our coaching team then!
I'm all for any ex player taking the helm of a professional club, but come on, none of the 3 mentioned have had a stint as assistant coaches at a successful club. Anderson and Wayne cut their cloth under decent coaches.
This all seems similar to wire giving Jimmy Lowes the head coach job, only for him to be bailed out by Smith.
I'll admit i was wrong if all goes well next season, but I just can't see it.
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| Quote ="GM1"This!
And a halfback who has failed to set any season alight whilst at the club'"
Why the Horne slagging?
He's been an outstanding servant for us, he has terrorised defences year in year out.
Not bad for a rovers fan eh?
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| Quote ="jacko1"So Basically AP's trying to follow the Wigan prototype just trying too skip the bit where the assistant had served under a winning coach with a team with structure and stability already in place..
think the season we bring relegation back is hardly time to be giving the reins of the club to a totally untried coaching staff'"
We need to get off to a good start in 2014, but really can't see us being in a relegation battle, the recruitment for 2014 was all but done before PG was given the bullet (and we may have dodged one on the proposed Mika signing). Don't forget Radford was in sole control of coaching the defence last season so in that area we are already solid (Hudds playoff & Saints at home aside) so if we can improve our attack who knows, I think 6th again.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Why the Horne slagging?
He's been an outstanding servant for us, he has terrorised defences year in year out.
Not bad for a rovers fan eh?'"
You have to be joking? You are James Clarke, I'll claim my 5 quid!
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| Quote ="Dave K."Brain Smith and Tong Smith didn't have a great RL career, both of whom are are good coaches.
I cant believe that people don't realise that your playing ability has nothing to do with how good a coach you are.
So many examples in sport where average players have made great coaches and managers and vice versa.'"
I agree,most coaches tend to have been average players,probably ellery hanley would be an exception but as you say brian and tony smith,daryl powell,mark aston,shaun wane,paul anderson, even richard agar all better coaches than they were players so hard to predict how radford will do with his limited coaching experience.
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| The A teamers.
In 2013 a crap coaching unit was sent to the KC by a chairman who knew nothing about RL. These men promptly fail to deliver the big promises and had some lucky escapes. Today that unit will be replace by men that will not cost a fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Teamers.
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Lee Radford as H.M. Murdock
Andy Last as John "Hannibal" Smith
Richard Horne as Templeton "Faceman" Peck
And Paul Cooke as Bosco Albert "B.A." Baracus
D3ICIV3
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| Quote ="deslawson"I agree,most coaches tend to have been average players,probably ellery hanley would be an exception but as you say brian and tony smith,daryl powell,mark aston,shaun wane,paul anderson, even richard agar all better coaches than they were players so hard to predict how radford will do with his limited coaching experience.'"
Some very good players have been pretty poor coaches - Alex Murphy, Andy Gregory, Garry Schofield - and as others have pointed out, some pretty average players have become very good coaches.
The reality is that Raford is an unkwown quantity. He could be a very good coach or he could be a disaster.
Only one way to find out...
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