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| Quote ="Standee"Granted I am the only person being honest about what they hear, but believe me, it's not idle gossip, this comes from people I trust and respect, and if I am proven wrong then I apologise in advance.
McRae is ruining FC from within, he's cost us Manu and Turner and others may follow, Gentle isn't happy and has told AP as such.
As I say, if I am wrong I apologise, but having seen how McRae "operated" at Salford I think there is more than a shred of truth in it, why did Turner leave there in the first place?'"
You seem to live by a different set of rules to the rest of us!! You warn against idle speculation on the injuries thread yet indulge yourself on this one (just because you choose to believe your sources and no one else's). Until it becomes fact or you offer your source than it is idle gossip imo.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"You seem to live by a different set of rules to the rest of us!! You warn against idle speculation on the injuries thread yet indulge yourself on this one (just because you choose to believe your sources and no one else's). Until it becomes fact or you offer your source than it is idle gossip imo.'"
fair enough, but I tend to find questioning a professional medical practitioner a little different to questioning a media whore with a big ego.
As I have said, if I am wrong then I apologise in advance.
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| You keep saying that, then slagging McRae off a bit more.
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| Quote ="Standee"I disagree, he is not worth £250,000, would he win us the Grand Final and Challenge Cup single handed, no.
Dykes (when fit) was a better player, as was Matthew Head. (again, in my opinion)'"
And if either of them had been capable of staying fit, they wouldn't have left the NRL. Especially if the market then had been as it is now.
I have to say that your talk on this seems to be heavily living in the (albeit fairly recent) past, things have changed significantly in only the past 2 seasons and Chase is about as good a halfback as there is even remotely available to play in SL. IMO you're being seriously unrealistic about how good a 6 we can get, and if you seriously think we should turn our noses up at a player of Chase's ability if it costs over £100k then it's time you stopped being so sniffy about Richard Horne. If we want better, we'll have to pay for it (in the short term, at least), if you wouldn't be willing to, deal with what we've got.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You keep saying that, then slagging McRae off a bit more.'"
in time we'll find out I guess
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| Quote ="Standee"Quote ="Rock God X"You keep saying that, then slagging McRae off a bit more.'"
in time we'll find out I guess'"
And in the meantime, we could dial back the personal insults a notch.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"And in the meantime, we could dial back the personal insults a notch.'"
personal insults?
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| Quote ="Standee"fair enough, but I tend to find questioning a professional medical practitioner a little different to questioning a media whore with a big ego.
As I have said, if I am wrong then I apologise in advance.'"
So you don't like him then?
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"So you don't like him then?'"
I don't like the impact he is apparently having on the club, no.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't like the impact he is apparently having on the club, no.'"
Yet the only tangible evidence we've had since he's been back is Agar being given the shove, snagging Gentle, and subsequent Ellis capture. What a b*****d.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Yet the only tangible evidence we've had since he's been back is Agar being given the shove, snagging Gentle, and subsequent Ellis capture. What a b*****d.'"
Well if you pop down to West Hull and catch O'Meley maybe he will clarify what Standee has posted as he has certainly not being shy about telling people exactly what Standee has posted
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| Quote ="Standee"Quote ="Rock God X"And in the meantime, we could dial back the personal insults a notch.'"
personal insults?'"
Towards McRae. Every time I've had dealings with him he's been a perfect gent. He was good for us in his last spell, and I've seen nothing other than your idle speculation to suggest that anything has changed this time around.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"Quote ="carl_spackler"Yet the only tangible evidence we've had since he's been back is Agar being given the shove, snagging Gentle, and subsequent Ellis capture. What a b*****d.'"
Well if you pop down to West Hull and catch O'Meley maybe he will clarify what Standee has posted as he has certainly not being shy about telling people exactly what Standee has posted'"
O'Meley has been widely tipped to be on his way out. He is also widely tipped to have fallen out with the current regime. Hardly someone whose word you'd want to take without a healthy pinch of salt.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"O'Meley has been widely tipped to be on his way out. He is also widely tipped to have fallen out with the current regime. Hardly someone whose word you'd want to take without a healthy pinch of salt.'"
Maybe, appeared convincing though, but it maybe rooted in bitterness, time will tell.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"Quote ="Rock God X"O'Meley has been widely tipped to be on his way out. He is also widely tipped to have fallen out with the current regime. Hardly someone whose word you'd want to take without a healthy pinch of salt.'"
Maybe, appeared convincing though, but it maybe rooted in bitterness, time will tell.'"
Either way, O'Meley is way out of line if he's telling fans stuff like that - true or not. Until there's some official confirmation, I'm inclined to judge McRae on the evidence, which, as spackler points out, is all good right now.
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| O'Meley would be better served getting his lardy in shape rather than holding court at West Hull.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Either way, O'Meley is way out of line if he's telling fans stuff like that - true or not. Until there's some official confirmation, I'm inclined to judge McRae on the evidence, which, as spackler points out, is all good right now.'"
As a club we are doing a lot better at this point than what I anticipated and I think Gentle is a fantastic coach, I was very pleased with the capture of G.Ellis and retaining Whiting, but equally disappointed with the loss of Manu & Turner, I am not overly ecstatic with our signings so far but I am open minded at this point as things appear to be going in the right direction, our signings will be crucial though as with the greatest respect we could have the best coach in the world but we also need the right players.
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| Quote ="Standee"personal insults?'"
Possibly these?
Quote ="Standee"fair enough, but I tend to find questioning a professional medical practitioner a little different to questioning a media whore with a big ego.
As I have said, if I am wrong then I apologise in advance.'"
Quote ="Standee"At what point was Slug Face certificated, I must have missed where he was a member of a professional body with various qualifications behind him.'"
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"Well if you pop down to West Hull and catch O'Meley maybe he will clarify what Standee has posted as he has certainly not being shy about telling people exactly what Standee has posted'"
Mark O'Meley who appears to be being shown the door? Also, isn't O'Meley supposed to not get on with Gentle, either? The same Mark O'Meley who was a major supporter of Agar? That Mark O'Meley?
I'm not actually saying he's wrong, I have no idea. All I'm saying is that so far, the evidence we've seen has been an improvement.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"As a club we are doing a lot better at this point than what I anticipated and I think Gentle is a fantastic coach, I was very pleased with the capture of G.Ellis and retaining Whiting, but equally disappointed with the loss of Manu & Turner, =#0000FFI am not overly ecstatic with our signings so far but I am open minded at this point as things appear to be going in the right direction, our signings will be crucial though as with the greatest respect we could have the best coach in the world but we also need the right players.'"
Given that you've just said you're very pleased with Ellis, just how bad do you think Arundel is to be fairly ambivalent with our signings overall?
Personally, the only losses I'm disappointed with are Manu and Moa if he goes.
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| Quote ="Standee"McRae is ruining FC from within, he's cost us Manu and Turner and others may follow, Gentle isn't happy and has told AP as such.'"
This would be the Manu who tried to back out of his deal with Saints and come back to Hull? And the Turner who wants to leave because the club won't let him commute any more?
Yup - I can see how Bomber has just driven these two away...
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| It wouldn't be mid season without rumours of the board falling out and physios not being able to do their job.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I quite liked the rumours thread, until someone went too far and posted the Mcgoldrick rumour.
I can't think of player in SL that I would least like to sign, I'd rather have Cockayne.
Holdsworth would be a decent signing, not a brilliant and one, but he is a lot better than Horne and Smith (who Wigan are after), there isn't much out there so may be the best available.
Be great if it was a double swoop with Broughton coming also.
And to be greedy I'd still like a FB.'"
Its the Tatoos that bother you aint it
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| Irrespective of whether these "rumours" are true, I'm not sure what value mcrae adds now pearson is out of work and can, presumably, devote his time to the club
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Irrespective of whether these "rumours" are true, I'm not sure what value mcrae adds now pearson is out of work and can, presumably, devote his time to the club'"
My thoughts as well, all Pearson needed was someone to get him a coach and then run things day to day.
Apart from contacts within the British game I don't see any value either.
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