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| Quote ="sandy"hardly, I welcome the foreign influence in superleague which has made our game the spectacle it is, especially from east hull of course with all the foreigners in our team
Call me old fashioned if you like but I'd like to cheer an england team on (or a great britain team in the past) that actually represents this country. I don't believe in shoe horning foreign players into the team to try and compete with the australian team in the name of bringing credibility to the international game. All that does in the end is undermine the international game by weakening teams like tonga, samoa etc. By the way I'd say the same if I was Irish, Welsh etc and the farce that is the grand parent rule!
This is not a Hull versus Rovers thing either, I've gone on record in the past that Willie Manu is a class player and believe it or not I would support an England team with 13 Englishmen who play for FC in it should that happen but nobody with the game at heart can seriously think picking people who have played for other nations for England on residency grounds is a good thing whoever they are, we are not England RU.
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So you never cheered when Tony Smith was in charge? After all he was an integral part of the England team, much in the same way Capello is in the Football.
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| Quote ="YettonGiant"Manu is better than them both IMO but I don't think he should play.'"
Who? Burgess and Ellis?
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| Quote ="westjba"completely agree, although im a massive fan of Manu, hes a Tongan, hes played for Tonga, its selections like this that make international RL a joke, and why would Manu want to play for another country??'"
How will you feel if England win the Ashes in Australia this winter - All the South Africans. Englaaand cricket is a joke.
I know your going to reply 'I dont like cricket' o no so I dont care
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"How will you feel if England win the Ashes in Australia this winter - All the South Africans. Englaaand cricket is a joke.
I know your going to reply '=#FF0000I dont like cricket' o no so I dont care
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I love it.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Xenophobia is alive and well on East Hull I see.
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I'm pretty sure this is one topic in which xenophobia is allowed. International rugby (league and union) is a joke when this happens. The rule should be born in the country or at least a parent born there. Residency is a farce and especially if you've played for your own country before.
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| I dont care where hes from but hes 30, giving a debut to someone at 30 isnt really planning for the future
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| Quote ="barham red"I'm pretty sure this is one topic in which xenophobia is allowed. International rugby (league and union) is a joke when this happens. The rule should be born in the country or at least a parent born there. Residency is a farce and especially if you've played for your own country before.'"
I'm pretty sure the same rule applies in football by the way, unless you have already played International football.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Don't rate westwood.A poor man's Danny Tickle.'"
Probably the funniest thing I've ever read on RLFans. Westwood is the most underrated player in SL and is the form back rower of the comp now. His work ethic is amazing, never say die attitude, his tackling is solid and he kicks goals and scores tries. I'm guessing you never watched the match last Friday.
You know nothing about RL
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| Quote ="Wire_74"icon_lol.gif
Probably the funniest thing I've ever read on RLFans. Westwood is the most underrated player in SL and is the form back rower of the comp now. His work ethic is amazing, never say die attitude, his tackling is solid and he kicks goals and scores tries. I'm guessing you never watched the match last Friday.
You know nothing about RL
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Westwood has made more tackles, carried the ball more and made more yards. He's bust more tackles, made more tackles from marker positions, missed less tackles, given away less penalties and made less errors.
Of course Tickle is the better player
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Quote ="South Stand Wire"Westwood has made more tackles, carried the ball more and made more yards. He's bust more tackles, made more tackles from marker positions, missed less tackles, given away less penalties and made less errors.
Of course Tickle is the better player
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to be fair tackle busts and marking tackles aside there isn't much in the their stats although i would agree westwood is the better player
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Quote ="South Stand Wire"Westwood has made more tackles, carried the ball more and made more yards. He's bust more tackles, made more tackles from marker positions, missed less tackles, given away less penalties and made less errors.
Of course Tickle is the better player
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to be fair tackle busts and marking tackles aside there isn't much in the their stats although i would agree westwood is the better player
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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| Willie Manu and Ben 'Workhorse' Westwood.
No contest.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Willie Manu and Ben 'Workhorse' Westwood.
No contest.'"
I'd rather have Manu in my team everytime.
Westwood is a good player but Manu offers something totally different.
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| Manu's good but he doesn't come close to Benny!
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Manu's good but he doesn't come close to Benny!'"
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Manu's good but he doesn't come close to Benny!'"
Quote ="Wire_74"
You know nothing about RL
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Ironic how the same person can make those two posts.
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| Wow. A wire fan who thinks all his team's players are better than anyone else's. How unexpected.
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| Quote ="westjba"completely agree, although im a massive fan of Manu, hes a Tongan, hes played for Tonga, its selections like this that make international RL a joke, and why would Manu want to play for another country??'"
I agree but what about the Austrailians who have all sorts of south sea islanders representing them and have been for years?.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"I agree but what about the Austrailians who have all sorts of south sea islanders representing them and have been for years?.'"
2 wrongs don't make a right.
the international federation should sort is out
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Manu's good but he doesn't come close to Benny!'"
any evidence to back this up?
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| Manu & Westwood are different types of player so it is pointless trying to compare them. I like both players and think Westwood is underated by a lot of people. Then again Manu is also underated by a lot of people.
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| To be fair all three will be on the plane with luck as we will certainly need young fit forwards thats for sure.
Manu is very special and could be lethal with decent halves bringing him into the game!!
Westy is the most under rated forward in SL hence why he has been courted recently by teams down under for his favours ..
and the other is a young shining star without a doubt and the future of GB , talented, great hands, great feet and a huge lump to boot
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| Quote ="EXPRO".
and the other is a young shining star without a doubt and the future of GB , talented, great hands, great feet and a huge lump to boot'"
Are you the one who has been following him into the showers?
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| Quote ="TKOAH"So you never cheered when Tony Smith was in charge? After all he was an integral part of the England team, much in the same way Capello is in the Football.'"
very rarely was there anything to cheer when tony smith was in charge, having been out to australia to watch the shambles that was our world cup campaign I was glad to see the back of "British Tony", for all that he is an outstanding club coach (dont want the wire fans on my case!)
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