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| Quote ="Chris71"I’d say the same re Jones early exit and lack of attendance at the club makes you think more to it has been made out. Total waste of money and he’s no longer here.'" There was, you only had to look at the way our players interacted with him at the end of the game in the previous matches. I'm surprised it took this long for 1 of our players to unload on him after his conduct last season.
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| You could tell after 15 mins we were going to be in for a long night as players seemed gassed already which meant we started taking short cuts with laying on too long and not getting back onside.
The long kicking game was dreadful meaning we never made Huddersfield work to clear their line because too many of the kicks went dead.
People talking about converting Shaul into a hooker but I think it's Ben Mac that should be turned into a hooker. He doesn't have much pace but his passing is accurate and he is a good defender. He can't do any worse than Johnstone who seems so far out of his depth it's ridiculous and his attempt on Cudjoe for his try was just pathetic.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Get rid of Savelio, the guy is a backside.
He can't control his emotions and that's no good to us We can find better.
In the Wigan game when he accused Clubb of racism, he was screaming his head of at the television cameras like a crazy mad man at the end of the game.
Last night, after being sent off, he went chasing after Jones, looking to make a scene,
I don't like the character of the man.'"
Its called passion and will to win.
A bit over the top last night, but he was frustrated, cant blame him for his reactions after the Wigan game.
Once he has got himself fully fit, he has been excellent one of SL best backrowers.
To suggest getting rid is madness.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You could tell after 15 mins we were going to be in for a long night as players seemed gassed already which meant we started taking short cuts with laying on too long and not getting back onside.
The long kicking game was dreadful meaning we never made Huddersfield work to clear their line because too many of the kicks went dead.
People talking about converting Shaul into a hooker but I think it's Ben Mac that should be turned into a hooker. He doesn't have much pace but his passing is accurate and he is a good defender. He can't do any worse than Johnstone who seems so far out of his depth it's ridiculous and his attempt on Cudjoe for his try was just pathetic.'"
That's a good call on McNamara, once Reynolds is back you could play him hooker off the bench, he did a short spell there against Huddersfield at home.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Get rid of Savelio, the guy is a backside.
He can't control his emotions and that's no good to us We can find better.
In the Wigan game when he accused Clubb of racism, he was screaming his head of at the television cameras like a crazy mad man at the end of the game.
Last night, after being sent off, he went chasing after Jones, looking to make a scene,
I don't like the character of the man.'"
Clubb issued a racist slur. He had every right to be angry.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Clubb issued a racist slur. He had every right to be angry.'" And as a professional sportsman, representing our club, he had every need to control himself, instead of ranting at the viewing audience down the camera, like a lunatic.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Its called passion and will to win.
A bit over the top last night, but he was frustrated, cant blame him for his reactions after the Wigan game.
Once he has got himself fully fit, he has been excellent one of SL best backrowers.
To suggest getting rid is madness.'" Gareth Ellis had passion and will to win, he still acted like a professional.
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| Looking at the stats for the game its clear that Huddersfields game plan of targeting us around the ruck worked really well, our top 3 for missed tackles was our starting front row (Houghton 8, Satea 5 & Sao 4) and those 3 seemed to be the guilty parties for most of the set restarts. Ligi in particular seems to be somebody that gets pinged a lot for it, sometimes unfairly though in my eyes.
Given how much work we ask of our backs Scott coming up with only 6 runs for 32 metres is really poor and Fonua was way down on his workrate from previous weeks too with 8 for 48.
McGillvary sets the tone for them so much and letting him get to 200 metres is crazy and there isn't a stat for it but every PTB he seemed to leave players out of the next tackle by been on the floor or not square. You would imagine he would have been on our tip sheet to control him and failed massively
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"And as a professional sportsman, representing our club, he had every need to control himself, instead of ranting at the viewing audience down the camera, like a lunatic.'" Somebody telling somebody else how they should react to racist abuse
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Somebody telling somebody else how they should react to racist abuse
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| We pretty much got what we deserved last night, not playing for so long seems as bad as playing too much. We were clunky, laboured and at times even appearing lazy, BH had installed a great work ethic in our team, but without the energy of Cator and Mau, we went away from this work ethos and was out enthused.
Huddersfield have had a great advantage by simply playing games, while we stiffened up doing nothing.
Our star men big Chris and Liggy were under par, we need Taylor back to share the work load, Huddersfield full value for the points, and as I said after they played Wigan, in young Will Pryce they have a great future star.
Our support for a Thursday night was excellent, we put the majority of clubs to shame.
Coach Watson is certainly one for alienating whole communities all of Salford, and now half of Hull don’t like the attitude of the little Princess,
Call me old fashioned, but as we were the only game played in the league, couldn’t the authorities have found a referee who wasn’t born and bred in Huddersfield to officiate this fixture.
Big game on Thursday and one all supporters of AP and our club should be attending if possible, let’s show these bias Sky commentators what real fans sound like.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Get rid of Savelio, the guy is a backside.
He can't control his emotions and that's no good to us We can find better.
In the Wigan game when he accused Clubb of racism, he was screaming his head of at the television cameras like a crazy mad man at the end of the game.
Last night, after being sent off, he went chasing after Jones, looking to make a scene,
I don't like the character of the man.'"
I'd have loved to see him play against the likes of McTigue, Karalius, Whitley, Ashurst, Morley etc. They'd have battered him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'd have loved to see him play against the likes of McTigue, Karalius, Whitley, Ashurst, Morley etc. They'd have battered him.'" How do you think Partington, Isa, Powell, Clubb etc would get on ?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"2k on a Thursday night, on Sky, give your head a bang.
Plenty of us there.
I'm assuming you weren't one of them.'"
We took over 2,000 to Huddersfield on a Monday night in 2001
1st proper away game for 18 months was a poor following for me
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You could tell after 15 mins we were going to be in for a long night as players seemed gassed already which meant we started taking short cuts with laying on too long and not getting back onside.
The long kicking game was dreadful meaning we never made Huddersfield work to clear their line because too many of the kicks went dead.
People talking about converting Shaul into a hooker but I think it's Ben Mac that should be turned into a hooker. He doesn't have much pace but his passing is accurate and he is a good defender. He can't do any worse than Johnstone who seems so far out of his depth it's ridiculous and his attempt on Cudjoe for his try was just pathetic.'"
Good shout mc would be a good hooker and compared to Houghton and Johnstone looks like usain bolt
Glad people are finally seeing that Houghton offers nothing whilst one of the top earners
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| You simply can't fly on sentiment I totally agree but I have to say that however he plays now and in the future I will be eternally grateful to him for that crowning moment of my life.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Good shout mc would be a good hooker and compared to Houghton and Johnstone looks like usain bolt
Glad people are finally seeing that Houghton offers nothing whilst one of the top earners
Tackle 52 made his career'"
Your right of course, no wonder he has only played nearly 400 times, we’ve been duped.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"And as a professional sportsman, representing our club, he had every need to control himself, instead of ranting at the viewing audience down the camera, like a lunatic.'"
Our coach begs to differ.
“I want to say how proud I am of how Andre has handled himself. He was put in a very hard situation and there’s never a right time for racism in sport or life in general.
“The fact is that Andre has stood up for himself, his culture and his ethnicity, and I’m really proud of his actions from start to finish.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"We took over 2,000 to Huddersfield on a Monday night in 2001
1st proper away game for 18 months was a poor following for me
And I was'"
You been in a time warp?
20 years ago and if its passed you by, we've just had restrictions lifted from a deadly world pandemic.
I suppose going to a game of rugby isn't foremost in a lot of minds apart from us desperados.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Quote ="WIZEB"2k on a Thursday night, on Sky, give your head a bang.
Plenty of us there.
I'm assuming you weren't one of them.'"
We took over 2,000 to Huddersfield on a Monday night in 2001
1st proper away game for 18 months was a poor following for me
And I was'"
It may well have been the first real away game in 18 months however It will take numbers a while to increase as there will be a number of people who are still lacking confidence in attending with the relaxing of rules, fewer people organising coaches etc and the numbers may never get back to pre covid numbers. Also I had tickets but was unable to go as I got pinged by the damn app and so now self isolating which is also something else to consider. I’d say all things considered it wasn’t a bad turnout for a Thursday night game that was also on SKY.
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| I thought Jones was looking for trouble all game last night and at the end made a point of finding it.
When Savelio was signed I was sceptical as i thought he was someone who had failed to settle at club after club but looking at his history he has not been at the that many. After a slow start I think he has been one of our better finds.
I thought Jones was going to be a good journeyman signing but was a complete disappointment and on the basis of what was said about his departure pretty unprofessional. Perhaps after Saints he thought he did not get the respect he deserves.
Let's see what bizarre decisions and justification the Disciplinary Panel come up with. Watson seems to be winding people up as much as possible immediately
I like the idea of trying McNamara at hooker. Last night was probably the first time I have been disappointed with Houghton. Admittedly in a poor overall team performance but I would have expected more spark and leadership from such a senior player.
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| Quote ="hesslefan"I thought Jones was looking for trouble all game last night and at the end made a point of finding it.
When Savelio was signed I was sceptical as i thought he was someone who had failed to settle at club after club but looking at his history he has not been at the that many. After a slow start I think he has been one of our better finds.
I thought Jones was going to be a good journeyman signing but was a complete disappointment and on the basis of what was said about his departure pretty unprofessional. Perhaps after Saints he thought he did not get the respect he deserves.
Let's see what bizarre decisions and justification the Disciplinary Panel come up with. Watson seems to be winding people up as much as possible immediately
I like the idea of trying McNamara at hooker. Last night was probably the first time I have been disappointed with Houghton. Admittedly in a poor overall team performance but I would have expected more spark and leadership from such a senior player.
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We need to replace the magnificent Danny Houghton with a top class nine, the talk of Shaul, Macca, and Johnstone as working in tandem is flawed, we don’t need an understudy, we need an improvement, which unfortunately none of these lads will be.
Danny probably still has a couple of years left, and it’s he, who should be the bench or stand in hooker now. unfortunately this way of thinking would also be detrimental towards Josh Johnstone, and I’m sad to say his future at the club must be in doubt.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"We need to replace the magnificent Danny Houghton with a top class nine, the talk of Shaul, Macca, and Johnstone as working in tandem is flawed, we don’t need an understudy, we need an improvement, which unfortunately none of these lads will be.
Danny probably still has a couple of years left, and it’s he, who should be the bench or stand in hooker now. unfortunately this way of thinking would also be detrimental towards Josh Johnstone, and I’m sad to say his future at the club must be in doubt.'"
Danny Levi could be an option only 25. Not got a look in at the Broncos, but he's too good for the Queensland league he's playing in.
Another guy I'd look at is Savili at Canberra. Different player to Levi but would improve us, again too good for the NSW Cup.
Ideally we'd have 2 overseas spots and sign a big lump to help Sao, Satae and Taylor.
Hopefully the playing time and investment in Brown will pay off, he's looked decent this year and if he can carry on improving I'd have no issue with him as our 4th prop option going into 22.
Spaud depth is an issue, but this will effect most teams post covid.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse",we don’t need an understudy, we need an improvement'"
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Get rid of Savelio, the guy is a backside.
He can't control his emotions and that's no good to us We can find better.
In the Wigan game when he accused Clubb of racism, he was screaming his head of at the television cameras like a crazy mad man at the end of the game.
Last night, after being sent off, he went chasing after Jones, looking to make a scene,
I don't like the character of the man.'"
Sorry but I just don't agree with you on this and think calling him a backside is pretty poor.
The incident with Clubb clearly upset and unsettled him but I personally thought he handled that well and I'm not sure which game you were watching but I never saw him screaming his head at a camera as a crazy mad man or otherwise. I saw him walking, facing and talking in to a camera, yes, quite animated, yes, as he was clearly angry and upset about something and understandably so. To say he was screaming his head off like a crazy mad man is way off the mark.
As for the Jones incident again it was clear on the images beamed to my TV that Jones came running in grabbing Savelio then threw the first punch with his right hand whilst holding on to Savelio's shirt collar (very much like ice hockey players do) Savelio took exception to that as most would and threw back in defence at which point Jones then covered up and other players smothered them both.
Its been quite evident form all the games against Huddersfield this season that there is some ill feeling between Jones and his ex team mates and in particular theres been a lot of needle between Jones with Mau and Savelio.
So I think this has been brewing for quite some time and possibly even before he left the club. I would hazard a guess that there is more to Jones early departure from the club than the reason given. Also its very very rare to see a complete group of ex team mates have no dealings whatsoever with the departed player before or after a game as is evidently the case with Hull players and Jones. It begs the question as to the real reason of his absence from the club whilst as a player at Hull or should I say whilst supposedly a player at Hull FC.
You then notice Mahe Fonua going to the touchline with Savelio until someone from the Hull FC staff are there to usher him to the dressing room, which again indicates to me that there's more to last night than Jones just defending a player who was hit hard but fair.
This may just be my opinion and all hypothetical but when you look at everything that has gone on, I think its fair to say there is a high probability that something has gone on or rather off within the playing squad involving Jones which hastened his exit from Hull FC.
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