Our 3 overseas who are still her next season, Hoy missed over half the season, Tuimavave played just over half the season and Sao missed a third of the season. Wasting so much money. Clifford, who we aren’t replacing, our only very good overseas signing for years.

Unless Smith can pull off a couple of miracle signings of uk players and a top halfback, we won't much better next season.

I wouldnt be massively bothered if any of those 3 weren't here next season.

Agreed but ones gunna be our makeshift half, ones our captain and ones our pack leader.

Smith still seemingly calm but still get a feeling he may pull the plug when the financial reality kicks in.and he cant get the backing he needs due to financial restraints.
The signings made dont cost money at this stage but the loss of some sponsors as they are being asked for more money for next season and expected decrease in pass sales will put ever more pressure on Pearson

Think Hoy will be ok, behind a better pack and if he can avoid his hamstring injuries.

Carlos is sadly finished, too many injuries.

Sao is steady, if he was English, but not he is good enough for a quota spot and that's without injuries and suspensions.

And that’s the big issue isn’t it Dave, normally a club could raise the mood with some big signing announcements but we are very limited now with only one quota spot available and in need of a out & out 7 and a 9. So unless the club can produce say Ackers & a top class half from the NRL along with a couple more domestic big hitters we are really going to be struggling.

Leigh have shown what can be done in a short space of time and Salford who have repeatedly lost big players but still compete the following seasons following their recruitment even after losing Watson and relatively tight budget.

Smith's still got to make a living and if he fails at Hull there wont be many new offers, so I think things would have to get very bad for him to walk out

Hoy would be okay with a Clifford but not instead of.

The fact every game is on TV next year has the potential to massively increase the number of fans that pick and choose which games they decide to attend in person as well if performances don't pick up

There is not a magic wand . We all know this club is struggling. We have for a couple of years. We brought in Smith to sort it. This year has just reinforced the massive job needed. He has started to address the situation with a clear out and new players signed. Pity he couldn't have got rid of more. It's not going to happen overnight. Mores the pity.

whoever decided to let all matches be on tv next season needs sacking.takes all control from clubs when they want there home games played.season pass holders getting raw deal to suite tv armchair viewers.disgrace

3 years running Rovers top team in the city and it's hard to see it not becoming 4.

Yep and 38 years running without a trophy, bore off

Judging success on finishing above Hull. It’s a low bar.

some bright spark gave Carlos a 4 year deal.

At least under Lee's tenure it was a pretty exciting rollercoaster ride.
Peaks & troughs.
Highs & lows.
It's been stale & flat ever since.
Erectile dysfunctional.

Carries/Metres last night

Houghton 7/25
Lane 5/22
Fash 6/33
Lovadua 13/48
Cator 10/44
Staveley 5/30

As bad as Taylor for 5, Lane 3 year extension and Shaul for 3.

5/6 of those likely to be here next year too

And 4 likely to play most weeks.

Litten, another one, what’s he good at? Enthusiasm? Been poor under high ball, can’t tackle, can’t pass

Bit harsh bagging a young lad whos in his first season. He's probably been played too much but he's had to due to injuries to Hoy and Shaul. There's about a dozen others I'd be looking at before Litten.

You'd like to think they all won't be in the same match day squad though

Just what did people expect before the season started?

We're around about where I thought we'd be, a bottom 4 club, which we have been for the past few seasons. If all the stars aligned I could've seen us make a push for the top 6, but that all went out the window during that 7 game losing run.

The fact that the players have "given up" once we have nothing to play for should come as no surprise to anyone, it's in this groups DNA. See Radford, Last, Hodgson.

Everyone wanted a clear out, and with 10 plus players going out that is what's happening. No all of those played, but they take up cap space that can be used in better areas and a chunk of them leaving are the ones you could blame for setting and upholding the poor "culture" that has plagued the club in recent times.

I don't expect us to reach the play offs next season, it's almost year 0 for me under Smith next season and give us a point to build from. Smith did similar at Rovers, you could argue they went backwards before they went forward under him.