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| Quote ="Dobbo Hull"See the Dobins are out in force,
Blown away in the opening 10 mins, and didn't have to do much to get back into the game cos we hit a brick wall with fatigue, they still concede 22 points, and we played absolute garbage.
Going to be a long season for rovers me thinks
=#FF0000Edited to remove libellous remark.
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Fatigued after 10mins? And you think we're going to have a long season
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"You scored by us giving away continuous penalties and becoming tired and lazy in defence. Whats your excuse for letting 4 tries in?'"
Rustiness in the first ten minutes that we soon snapped out of led to the first two and Yeaman got one on the bell when the result was not in question.
So guess we'll just work on the one we conceeded after we racked up 28 unanswered points
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Which part
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All of it!
Your team at no point replicated how we played in the first 15/20 mins, we were then poor and your team quite rightly capitalised on our mistakes/ penalties, I believe had you played Saints or Wigan yesterday based on your performance you would have been slaughtered your defence was woeful on many occasions our players just brushed many of your players aside...You see the difference is we know what our problems are right now, yet you lot do not appear to have a clue what yours are
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| cant be ar$ed looking through all this, but good luck to little sam, youve got a good un'. typical jack russell that thinks he's a rottweiller, and not short of skill, will be missed.
its no fun being a wakey fan, off to slash my wrists!!!!!!
best of luck for the season.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"You scored by us giving away continuous penalties and becoming [i[utired and lazy in defence.[/u[/i Whats your excuse for letting 4 tries in?'"
What after 10 minutes. You need a new conditioner if that's the case.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"He'll ruin his career if he plays him at Centre aswell.
Hes a current GB starter on the wing, why move him ? A minor weakness is his defence and thats on the wing, Centre is a difficult position to defend, possibly the hardest and he sticks him there yesterday and was caught out.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"All of it!
Your team at no point replicated how we played in the first 15/20 mins, we were then poor and your team quite rightly capitalised on our mistakes/ penalties, I believe had you played Saints or Wigan yesterday based on your performance you would have been slaughtered your defence was woeful on many occasions our players just brushed many of your players aside...You see the difference is we know what our problems are right now, yet you lot do not appear to have a clue what yours are
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We scored 28 unanswered points yet never replicated what you showed in a 15 minute spell when you managed to score 14
We are better than you, deal with it
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I give up. A 2 year deal is just a joke.'"
It's not really. He will be signed principally as a hooker and will share the role with Houghton, which is good news as I don't think Washy is the answer there and Houghton cannot do the full 80 mins every week. We will still need a backup hooker next season as Newton will probably not be ready so a 2 year deal makes sense. He can also play as a back up to Horne/Long which is useful cover to have but it won't affect our recruitment of halfbacks for next season.
As a hooker signing it makes good sense to me. He will come off the bench and add some spark and Houghton will get rest. He is experienced and won't need much time to settle in as he has been playing SL a while.
Not the best halfback but he will only be there when we have injuries and as a bench hooker I think he will do a good job.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Lol, we had practically no ball in those opening 10.
Back to topic, another aussie in obst?? How many MORE do you want...'"
No more than last season, Cusack goes, we get Phelps, Berrigan goes we get Obst.
What's your point
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"We scored 28 unanswered points yet never replicated what you showed in a 15 minute spell when you managed to score 14
[uWe are better than you, deal with it[/u'"
For as long as Rich Agar is in charge, it's a fact.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"
Your team at no point replicated how we played in the first 15/20 mins, we were then poor and your team quite rightly capitalised on our mistakes/ penalties, I believe had you played Saints or Wigan yesterday based on your performance you would have been slaughtered your defence was woeful on many occasions our players just brushed many of your players aside...You see the difference is we know what our problems are right now, yet you lot do not appear to have a clue what yours are
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You really do live in cloud cuckoo land dont you pal. For your info its an 80 minute game, not the first 15/20 mins fool!!
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| =#FF0000Can we keep this thread about Obst please, use the other threads to discuss the game.
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| dont understand the negative reaction regarding obst signing.he always looks a good ,tricky player to me.has a bit of flair hull sadly lack and will provide cover at half back or hooker.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"We scored 28 unanswered points yet [unever replicated what you showed in a 15 minute [/uspell when you managed to score 14
We are better than you, deal with it'"
No not at any point, you beat what became a very poor team deal with it...Yesterday you were indeed a better team than us no doubt about it...however it is a long season ahead so a bit premature to suggest you are the better team overall this season.
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| Quote ="Easty"What after 10 minutes. You need a new conditioner if that's the case.
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Not after 10 minutes, but after kept giving the ball away and defending more then attacking. More defending makes the team more tired, it's not rocket science. We shot ourselves and you capitalised.
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| Quote ="Bransholme Red"You really do live in cloud cuckoo land dont you pal.
For your info its an 80 minute game, not the first 15/20 mins fool!!'"
Just for the record I do not want to be your pal, nothing personal you understand.
I am fully aware it is a 80 mins game, we played very poor rugby for the last 50/60 mins, you played just a bit better than us and quite rightly won the game.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"No not at any point, you beat what became a very poor team deal with it...Yesterday you were indeed a better team than us no doubt about it...however it is a long season ahead so a bit premature to suggest you are the better team overall this season.'" leave them to it bb they all have there red and white specs on
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"You scored by us giving away continuous penalties and becoming tired and lazy in defence. Whats your excuse for letting 4 tries in?'"
Did your first 2 tries not come courtesy of penalties allowing you up the field?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Washy has put in any number of performances as bad as Westerman's without getting dropped.'"
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| =#FF0000Just in case anyone missed Paul's post earlier, can we please stick to discussing Obst on this thread.
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| At first I thought 2 years was to much but if he's signed as a hooker first and half back cover second it's not to bad . Not as though we have a second hooker this season or next so it's not a bad signing . Thing is were signing players season after season with no change so sooner or later the board must think about changing the coach .
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It's not really. He will be signed principally as a hooker and will share the role with Houghton, which is good news as I don't think Washy is the answer there and Houghton cannot do the full 80 mins every week. We will still need a backup hooker next season as Newton will probably not be ready so a 2 year deal makes sense. He can also play as a back up to Horne/Long which is useful cover to have but it won't affect our recruitment of halfbacks for next season.
As a hooker signing it makes good sense to me. He will come off the bench and add some spark and Houghton will get rest. He is experienced and won't need much time to settle in as he has been playing SL a while.
Not the best halfback but he will only be there when we have injuries and as a bench hooker I think he will do a good job.'"
Spot on, I don't know why some are so negative, he's everything you've said. It's not grasping at straws or any of those things, Sam Obst knows the game here and will quickly adapt to the side. I'm sure Houghton & Co, are breathing a sigh of relief because, to go through many more matches without a replacement would surely burn them up, then where would we be. Just because we have'nt got a world superstar does not mean there are not any positives, there are plenty.
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| As long as he played mainly as bench hooker and he doesn't count on the quota it is a decent signing.
I'm sure that Hull wanted him on h a 1 year deal but I doubt he would have come for that.
He and Phelps will give the squad much better balance and cover.
When they arrive (on paper) I think we have a better squad than last year.
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