Thats the price you pay for Sky being committed to show R.L. on the t.v.

indeed cindy, recently I've watched a few old games and I can honestly say that SL isn't as entertaining (to me) as the 'old' league.

Your getting to be a grumpy old man,"When I were a lad......etc..... "

Not at all, I am just saying what I see, the cheating etc. in SL now is embarassing, it just isn't as good to watch (to me), do you remember watching Gregory/Edwards/Hanley, who is comparable in the modern game?

made up by sky ??? never been to Oz I guess, because all those terms are common place in the NRL

briscoe, Tompkins, Price, Eastmond shall i go on

tell you what lets remove the 40/20 kick, and go back to contested scrums whilst were at it and play over wonter so we can play in mud again to huh






The modern game is very different to pre SL, much fitter and faster and thus more enjoyable for the fans although maybe it doesnt fall into the whine and winge remit it is in fact true,

do you mean the era when wigan won cup 10 years in a row? very entertaining indeed i must say

Don't forget when GB use to win the World Cup games by beating the Aussie

Maybe because these kind of things have come into the game by coaches and players, not be the commentators! Never been down to a rugby training session?? We constantly talk of controlling the 'collision' and winning the wrestle to enable a slow play the ball to set the defensive line

I wonder if it means creating a try where the receiver of the ball (either by pass or kick) is unopposed - i.e. does not have to break a tackle (to make or =#000080assist their own try) to score.

indeed we do, but it doesn't mean the terms are anything other than imports courtesy of Sky, the game isn't any better off because of the idiotic terminology.

We were told to make sure the tackled player ended on his back 20 years ago when I started playing. I guess that is the same as "winning the wrestle". The difference is a lot of coaches now like to use these terms to make them sound like they've graduated from the Harvard School of RL Coaching..........ps, is "winning the collision" the same as "fooking hit him"???

Indeed, the game is no more technical now than it ever was, it's just pretentious language used to try and make people look "informed", the players are fitter, but so they should be given that they earn £40k+ a year and they don't have to do another job at the same time.

Those phrases are not made up by Sky, a lot come from the NRL and we use them or the odd coach comes up with another word and phrase and it catches on.

I should have said "imported", my apologies, but you know what I am getting at, it's all recent langauge that adds nothing to the game.

I quite like it, good to have new phrases etc, the game has to evolve and not stand still.

That's fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion, to me is just sounds like people grasping at some straws trying to give the impression they know more about the game, when in fact they know about the same as everyone else.

I see your point but don't agree, if you say island or pitch, changing rooms or sheds, halfbacks or pivots it all means the same thing.

They arent in the same league as Hanley,Edwards,Gregory and a player who was very under-rated in Tony Myler...as for Eastmond...he can clear off.

Done mention Andy Gregory

Indeed, they were true legends of the game, Eastmond would struggle to think at half the speed Edwards did, just a shame the demon drink got hold of him when he was coaching.

Think you named the wrong half back there regards the drink!

Shame these legends seem lost to our game.

Indeed, I meant Gregory, apologies.

I remember going to The Willows and "talking" to Gregory before the game, he was pi$$ed as a fart, and he was meant to tbe the coach.

Wasn't Gregory tested & found to be one of the fittest athletes in the whole of the UK, I'm sure there was a programme about it?
Certainly Roby will be up there IMO.