Just been looking at the stats on the SL site and we have scored 48 tries but our highest player in "try assists" in horne with 5???

hudds have "only" scored 9 more tries than us but have 4 players with more assists - grix 8, brough 7, brown 7 and lunt 6. leeds have also scored 9 more and have 3 players totalling 27 assists. Even salford, who have scored less tries than us, have 3 players totalling 27.

Stats are [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2011&stat=try_assists&hs1=2011&hp1=1795&hs2=2011&hp2=1085HERE[/url

I think it's either a pass from a line break or a kick in general play that directly leads to a try.

I don't think the stats are accurately updated. It's still showing Gleeson as making 2 appearances for 'Wigan' for one thing.
Ours as shown are:
5 Horne
4 Manu
3 Long
2 Fitz, Houghton, Whiting, Turner
1 Obst, Tickle, Yeaman
Total 23 assists, so by that reckoning the other 25 tries were individual brilliance, intercepts or a player picked up & scored from an opponents mistake.

Well two of the tries against Warrington didn't come from an assist!!!

I guess it's the last pass or kick? For instance Long should have got one for the Whiting try against Rovers and Westerman one for the Gleeson try.

The thing is sometimes a player might make a 70 metre break and then get tackled, from the resulting play a team scores but I guess he gets no credit?

Exactly, the first try on Good Friday for example. That will go down as a Willie Manu assist when Tom Briscoe did far more in the build up.

Indeed, it's a totally nonsense thing, a bit like the island, the collision and the wrestle, all made up by Sky.

Made up by sky???

Thought an assist was when the final pass or kick put the player in for a walk in, Longs pass to whiting wouldn't count has he still had the winger to beat. The Williams try at wire would has wire had a 2 on 1 Atkins drew the man and gave Williams a walk in. Would also explain why shudds get so many they are really good at sucking teams in to the middle and either kick or long pass to wingers who are stood in acres of space

such phrases never existed in the game pre-Super League, hence it's down to Eddie, Stevo and colleagues that we've got language and phrases involved in our game that are actually meaningless.

He means by the Sky 'pundits' who in effect do the vocals for Sky. Surely we all know by now that Sky pay the piper and so call the tune. ...grannyfan Cindy

Thats the price you pay for Sky being committed to show R.L. on the t.v.

indeed cindy, recently I've watched a few old games and I can honestly say that SL isn't as entertaining (to me) as the 'old' league.

Your getting to be a grumpy old man,"When I were a lad......etc..... "

Not at all, I am just saying what I see, the cheating etc. in SL now is embarassing, it just isn't as good to watch (to me), do you remember watching Gregory/Edwards/Hanley, who is comparable in the modern game?

made up by sky ??? never been to Oz I guess, because all those terms are common place in the NRL

briscoe, Tompkins, Price, Eastmond shall i go on

tell you what lets remove the 40/20 kick, and go back to contested scrums whilst were at it and play over wonter so we can play in mud again to huh






The modern game is very different to pre SL, much fitter and faster and thus more enjoyable for the fans although maybe it doesnt fall into the whine and winge remit it is in fact true,

do you mean the era when wigan won cup 10 years in a row? very entertaining indeed i must say

Don't forget when GB use to win the World Cup games by beating the Aussie

Maybe because these kind of things have come into the game by coaches and players, not be the commentators! Never been down to a rugby training session?? We constantly talk of controlling the 'collision' and winning the wrestle to enable a slow play the ball to set the defensive line

I wonder if it means creating a try where the receiver of the ball (either by pass or kick) is unopposed - i.e. does not have to break a tackle (to make or =#000080assist their own try) to score.

indeed we do, but it doesn't mean the terms are anything other than imports courtesy of Sky, the game isn't any better off because of the idiotic terminology.

We were told to make sure the tackled player ended on his back 20 years ago when I started playing. I guess that is the same as "winning the wrestle". The difference is a lot of coaches now like to use these terms to make them sound like they've graduated from the Harvard School of RL Coaching..........ps, is "winning the collision" the same as "fooking hit him"???

Indeed, the game is no more technical now than it ever was, it's just pretentious language used to try and make people look "informed", the players are fitter, but so they should be given that they earn £40k+ a year and they don't have to do another job at the same time.