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| He just can’t.
Why leave it so late to bring Whitbread and Hood back on.
What kind of defence was that in the first 10 minutes of the second half.
His players are a disgrace but after a year they are his players.
For the first time since 2006 I don’t think we can stay up. This team if you can call it that has no heart.
Great new ground, no team, how ironic.
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| You know what I couldn't care less.
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| No more for me ,
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| Quote ="vastman"He just can’t.
Why leave it so late to bring Whitbread and Hood back on.
What kind of defence was that in the first 10 minutes of the second half.
His players are a disgrace but after a year they are his players.
For the first time since 2006 I don’t think we can stay up. This team if you can call it that has no heart.
Great new ground, no team, how ironic.'"
I thought exactly same about Hood and Whitbread. They were absolute rocks in the middle and when they came back on defence improved almost immediately.
I’m with you, think we are heading down.
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| Deserve to go down. I’ll support Trinity even if they played at Crigg, but to let that lead slip is absolute filth. Just absolutely blows my mind how we can be that poor. They are an embarrassment to the badge of the players down the years who have fought blood sweat and tears for the club.
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| The only way you can show your anger is to stay away.
Its sickening supporting Wakey.
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| Poorer squads have stayed up as they had heart and fight. The majority of this lot have neither.
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| Quote ="vastman"He just can’t.
Why leave it so late to bring Whitbread and Hood back on.
What kind of defence was that in the first 10 minutes of the second half.
His players are a disgrace but after a year they are his players.
For the first time since 2006 I don’t think we can stay up. This team if you can call it that has no heart.
Great new ground, no team, how ironic.'"
I couldn't agree with you less. None of that is to do with Poching. Squarely at the players.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I couldn't agree with you less. None of that is to do with Poaching. Squarely at the players.'"
Got to agree did not have ball at all in first 20 minutes of second half a few 50\50 calls went against us .That is the way it goes when you are a team that will soon be bottom of S L
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| Quote ="PopTart"I couldn't agree with you less. None of that is to do with Poaching. Squarely at the players.'"
Well by that logic we don’t need a coach
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| I think he may be somewhat out of his depth with this team. ( I use the term “team” very lightly). They have limited ability, so to a great extent it’s about getting the best out of them. This relies heavily on hard work and commitment. It would appear to me that this coach can’t get this from them, particularly in crucial games.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I couldn't agree with you less. None of that is to do with Poaching. Squarely at the players.'"
Almost certain the coach decides on when to make subs so plenty to do with Poaching
He is not and has never been a head coach, nothing at all has changed from the collapse of the 2nd half of the salford game when we almost threw a convincing lead away and wigan cup game, the squad do not fear him or any reprocussions he will select individuals to blame (e.g. a spell with no Tanginoa, a spell with no Batchelor who also never returned back on to the field after half time after again being probably the best defender in the first half) and Jowitt. If batch was was injured then nothing was mentioned on sky.
The fault today was 20minutes of 12 men but he changed nothing aside bringing on Butler and we know how that worked, even the wins are predictable (given hull fc and wire couldnt even score a try in 80mins) its bland, its boring and its predictable and the squad is down to the coach and he is not a coach
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| Quote ="Wildcat_1"Almost certain the coach decides on when to make subs so plenty to do with Poaching
He is not and has never been a head coach, nothing at all has changed from the collapse of the 2nd half of the salford game when we almost threw a convincing lead away and wigan cup game, the squad do not fear him or any reprocussions he will select individuals to blame (e.g. a spell with no Tanginoa, a spell with no Batchelor who also never returned back on to the field after half time after again being probably the best defender in the first half) and Jowitt. If batch was was injured then nothing was mentioned on sky.
The fault today was 20minutes of 12 men but he changed nothing aside bringing on Butler and we know how that worked, even the wins are predictable (given hull fc and wire couldnt even score a try in 80mins) its bland, its boring and its predictable and the squad is down to the coach and he is not a coach'"
What would you have changed apart from bringing Butler on?
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| Did anyone see his after match interview i didnt just waundering what he said
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| Maybe Poching can’t coach but you can’t get away from the fact a few shocking individual plays cost us here. But yeah some spine on show in the first 20 of 2nd half could’ve kept us in the game.
I was fuming following the Cas & Salford debacle but I just feel numb after that & probably gonna take a while to digest that viewing!
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| Quote ="PopTart"What would you have changed apart from bringing Butler on?'"
Removed the culprits of the 6 agains (Pitts from memory at least 2 and unbelievely Ashurst who is a master of conceding 6 agains) and bring on Batchelor it needed something to stem the flow and the coaches job is to see the areas of concern and act accordingly, he never once looked worried (i wont say didnt look bothered) when the cameras cut to him, zero animation to get messages out. Our best defenders are arguebly Hood and Whitbread (who was immense) nowhere to be seen
Our disclipline is appalling and has been all season but conceding 158 points in 3 games is self explanitory change of attitude is needed and some one with (new) ideas
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| Not sure if changing Poching would have any impact on this set of players.
However I do feel if you keep doing the same things over and over, you will get the same result.So maybe a change of coach or at the very least , some more experienced help is required in an attempt to at least try and avoid the drop.
Doing nothing would be my least favoured option.
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| Okay so I’m sorry but Poching takes a lot of rap for this result. and the last few. His decisions in selection at times are absolutely mind boggling.
1. Why is Batch not at centre???? He played twice and got Motm In two that we won.. we put Minns/Croft there and we leak try’s for fun. Again Croft was poor in defence today.
Poching has made an absolute mess tinkering with right centre. He took something that worked and broke it.
2. Why on earth has Crowther gravitated back to a 9??? We literally converted Kay because it was clear Crowther wasn’t a 9. I really rate Crowther as a 13 btw. We have Bowes who is a young exciting 9 who tackles very strong too and Poching is playing Crowther there as a stand in. Poor from Poching.
Poching I’m sure cares but he needs to take responsibility for this and sort it out. Players like Crowther, Batch, Murphy, Bowes will bust their backs out for trinity and we need them on that pitch.
Evans seems to be a decent player but if Kershaw pulls through this reserves game tomorrow he should be brought straight back into the fold.
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| I’ve never once believed we would go down since we got promoted
At the beginning of this season my thoughts based on the signings we made and with the deterioration of the impact our senior players the likes of ashurst and arona would have (who have previously being real stalwarts for the red white n blue) is that we would go down this season
I think the saddest thing is, that even if we do stay up
It’s another year of hoping not to get relegated at best, unless there are so really good players brought in to bolster the ranks
It’s really sad for us as fans to see a loss like that again
I’ll go watch us if we’re in the championship no probs, it might actually be more enjoyable
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| The thing is if we did remove Poching from his role we'd just promote Cummins anyway, so its pointless.
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| Think we can put this defeat on Fifita … starting 2 nd half a man down was criminal ! They were always going to come out fighting and we laid it on a plate for them !
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| Need new owners ASAP. They’ve got the club into this mess.
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| Quote ="cocker"Think we can put this defeat on Fifita … starting 2 nd half a man down was criminal ! They were always going to come out fighting and we laid it on a plate for them !'"
It further didn't help when Butler did that stupid, so called tackle and Miller kicking early, the 'six agains' also didn't help.
Dumb rugby from players without self discipline!
Hope there are mass brawls in the Hull derby, with HKR getting about six suspended; trouble is we still won't be in with a chance next week.
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| Quote ="cocker"Think we can put this defeat on Fifita … starting 2 nd half a man down was criminal ! They were always going to come out fighting and we laid it on a plate for them !'"
Cant put it all on fifita yes what he did was stupid but we as a team should be able to cope for 10 mins with 12 .also what buttler did was just as bad if not worse.there was loads of errors that led to it
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| Quote ="vastman"He just can’t.
Why leave it so late to bring Whitbread and Hood back on.
What kind of defence was that in the first 10 minutes of the second half.
His players are a disgrace but after a year they are his players.
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Well he could the other week when we won a couple, he could when he took over from Chester. The players committed suicide today 20 minutes with 12 men in 25 degrees is a jolly good show. The team had heart but we are an aging team who will play well for a few games and drop back to not. Its called over 30 legs gone, body gone and all those can keep bulling them up but it won't do any good. Some people need to hang their heads in shame
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