As a team, as fans as a club we have been totally humiliated today. Just got in from the match and Jamie Peacock/Jon Wilkin have it spot on….no desire no drive no fire in the belly at crucial times ! They are actually laughing at our defence or lack of defence. If we want to stay in SL the change has to happen tonight, listening to Webster he is correct about certain players not performing but the fact remains his players do not respond or want to perform for him. I will add though fitness is a massive problem for us, once Leigh went up a gear we could not keep up.
Last thing..T. Smith sadly looks finished to me…..we are playing without halfbacks every week . He is controlling nothing, when Leigh needed lifting their half back produced two 40-20 plays , and Smiths last tackle kicks are hopeless.

McShane mom for me. Tim Smith doesn't appear to have the appetite for halfback anymore & with ineffective Miller at s/o we are totally rudderless. Fit ness an immense issue which may affect the desire - you can't do much if you are gasping for breath. For all the hammer they took in 1st half they came back strong and had the fitness to blow us way

Only wish it was complete but there is worse to come,

We will be absolutely destroyed on TV at the Magic Weekend.

We won't win again this year including the play off games, probably being spanked in that one.

Carter will take his bat and ball home.

The club will leave BV never to return and within a few years the club will be a memory - I'm not a doom and gloomer - that is realism.

Where do we go from here ? Championship is calling loud and clear

A good coa ch could probably turn this around in time for the Middle 8, but who is available and who would come?
It's Not too late but the sand is running through the egg timer and will eventually run out.
We're Wakefield and this is what we do, but I fear this may be it this time.

We need some inspiration from somewhere- does the club/ team have the leaders to pull it off?

It's actually good. I like it here. Proper old school rugby days.

For one who has supported them from 1960 this is so sad

Is anyone surprised? Be honest? Thought at 24-6 and cruising it was too good to be true.

Webster do one. You're just like your predecessor Agar useless. Possibly put Collis in charge, he's got one more ball than you.

In the same taxi.

Miller - no explanation needed.
Kirmond - Disgraceful captain/ replace with Washbrook
Tim Smith - pathetic
Arundel/Riley - worst centre wing partnership ever.
Craig Hall - never thought I'd want Mathers back. Titanic turned round quicker.

Rock bottom. The only way is up now then?

Nothing like complete.

Some nice local derbies too.

50+ years supporting my team. After today I've had enough. Nearly £300 for my season ticket, concession age up to 65. Can find better things to spend my ver hard earned cash on.

Don't think we'll win another game all season. In seasons past we've looked like that but have been performing to a level that would suggest we could win a few and surprise a few and we have done. We don't even look like that now.

At 24-12 I said that another Leigh score would see our heads go down and that's pretty much what happened. We were lacking in last tackle ideas, there was no fight, no urgency and we looked completely lost of a leader. It was sad to watch really.

The choice of plays was mind boggling. At numerous times in the second half we had men queueing up down the left and instead we opted for going right or one man rugby.

For God's sake bring on the end of the middle eights and put us out of our misery. At the moment we are half dead road kill waiting for the next car to run us over and finish us off.

Said it on here earlier in the season and I will reiterate..... This team with the present coaching team in place will not make the Top 5 of the Middle 8's. So even thinking about competing in the 'Million Pound Game' is pure fantasy.

What a perfect analogy

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Our only hope is someone is brought in to scrape the battered carcase off the road, perform C.P.R. give us a heart transplant & we’re good to go.

Summer bash is calling . the pain is unbearable let's go down now and be done

Might not be a bad thing to be honest.
Sometimes when rebuilding, you have to knock things down and start again.
We are now suffering the consequences of years of bad/mis-management. I feel for MC, who has inherited a struggling business which was skirting with administration once again.
Cuts had to made, so we could survive. We are on a shoestring budget, the ground is a millstone around our neck. I can understand fans frustraitions, but we have to spend within our means.
I work with and know a number of Cas fans who actually enjoyed watching their team play championship rutby, due to them winning nearly every game.
Next year we could be playing Bradford, Fev etc with a good chance of winning, fans support a winning team.
There will be a reduction in costs with not being in SL.
It might be painful, but being in the championship might give us the stability we need to start to rebuild.

Don't bet on a price reduction, if we aim to stay fulltime then it will be the same as it is now. If we go part time then the winning team thing is going to be an issue as well.

That would be ok if we could convince the RFL that Belle Vue was iconic...........

I don't know how to do it myself, but will someone who does please start a simple poll on here asking us true fans whether Webster should stay or go ??
(I know there was one last week asking for alternatives but I think that just gave people too many options).

Yeah definitely.

And some good days out, in rugby country too.

Agree with you. Us going under and into the Champ has given us the chance to start over.

It doesn't matter what the fans think the only person that can get him out is M C. He could go under his own steam but I don't think he will.
The club stinks of defeatism from the top M C , J w and his team and the players. The club needs a new owner, and coach the players are capable of so much more.
For starters bring in a coach with a strong Rl background and not a yes man. Then Mc should actively look for a successor before we have no club.
Forget about starting over with the present set up it will not work.
That's

Anyone and everyone with twitter should tweet carter tell him what we think of webster

I'm not on Tweeter and don't know how to TWIT (!), which is why I asked for it on here, please ?

You honestly think he gives a flying soam and so what the fans think. The only people that man listens to are people who blow smoke up his rear end. He will never admit he's wrong and he will slowly kill this club unless he has a personality transplant.