Beyond fed up now yes the players need to play for each other but the coach is clueless he decides the running order ie who srarts in what position and the game plan as well so after yesterdays pathetic performance something has to give in the coaching department
im taking nothing away from the cas team cos they have the right idea they are on fire this season and have one of the best coaches in sl we have a reject from hull and look what he did to hull
mc needs to listen to the fans voices agar is ruining the pride of wakefield
surely theres a get out clause in agars contract
i would.like to be paid back for that pathetic performance yesterday how many more teams are going to put 50pts past us week in week out

I think Cas offered to give people back their admission money back after a thumping from wakey a few years back. It doesn't really help, but a gesture all the same.

I'm afraid it's a risk you take when you buy your ticket, especially being a Wakefield fan! The club could offer a refund or a future discount if they were that way inclined but the likelihood is slim. The only option open to you is to vote with your feet next time if you are unhappy.

So we are pretty much in this situation because we have no money and we have to gamble on players and coaches, and you wan the club to pay you out when we get beaten?
I despair

If you are not prepared to take the risk, go watch a team that will win all the time.
You have two choices near by now.

You'd take the money back and risk the financial state of your club? If you ignore the team been Castleford, and any other 3rd place team over the years. You'd not demand it back. You have a thrown together squad, who were behind the 8 ball with visas and you met one of the form teams in the comp on a good day.

It won't be the first time. Won't be the last, Hell. We've had too many to remember, Taking your money back won't help the club though.

Agreed.

It wouldn't have so bad had MC or Agar offered an apology to the fans but you don't even get that. At least Jarrod sammut said sorry on twitter.

It does smack you in the face a bit when you buy into a product but the product has a recurring fault

This got no money don't wash with me I'm afraid, we've men on good brass not performing, we've brought four lads from the southern hemisphere over here bought a couple of Bradfords top earners ,as well as loanees from Leeds andwarrington we've a couple of lads on Dr one out on loan presume their wages are getting paid please pop tart , scarlet or anyone else don't come on with how do I know all this whatever else I am I'm not thick

Never said you were thick TS.
But no one is helping when they ask for money back.

Unless you are prepared to pay more for the London, Catalan, Hull and Widnes games?

My point pop tart is not about money back ,that's stupid my point was about always crying poverty I don't believe it

I too think this squad is under-performing, and peanuts or no peanuts, it is more than capable of producing better performances than it is this season. I leave the rest down to Agar but for me I have seen nothing in our defensive structures to suggest he is the coach to improve us or take us forward. The attack has got worse and his obsession with playing people out of position is criminal.

Yesterday was absolutely appalling, it took me back to when Cas stuffed us 80 odd nil in 96 I think it was, I've never felt so disappointed watching a game, utter sh8, never once during the game did I think that we put anything worthwhile together, we were getting absolutely slaughtered and did we try a different kick off? Nah, same kick every time, we were absolutely annihilated by a very well drilled team, not a world beating team, if RA can't get this squad up for our biggest game of the season then his pride should say time to go!

I totally agree with this post, if we can't get up for a local derby match a then something is very wrong.

I have never been a player or a coach basher, but when i look at the squad i see some half decent players in there, who are grossly under performing, in fact if you compare the Cas squad you dont see a very big differance.

Consistency is what Cas have, NOT a good performace or two followed by the disgrace we saw sunday and previous, it does follow a pattern with regularity. So for me it is time for a change of coach. But I am not convinced it will happen either for financial or other reasons.

All we ask for, as has been said before is we get full commitment to Trinity and I am afraid I just dont see that.
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As angry as I was after Sunday & spending hundreds of pounds following my team.....asking for your money back isn't the best option for the club.

I said to my mates at the game we looked beaten even when we were walking out to kick off.

My worry is.....if we continue as we are.....just how many fans will continue to turn up & support the team......and that's not fair on the people who have worked tirelessly to keep the club going...

Funny you should say'we looked beaten' before kick off.
It has just reminded me that, at the time, I too thought Cas ran out looking the more determined outfit.

Can I say as a Cas fan I thought you played better than last time we met at Easter the difference this time we upped our game which made it look more easy. We would of beaten most of the sides there if not all of them the pitch the conditions suited us. I would not get to upset your picking points up and will be safe I know it hard when your beaten heavy in derby I know been there but this season all about staying up nothing else.

Wakefield have always been consistent at being inconsistent whoever was in charge or on the pitch. It is part of being a Wakefield supporter I don't know why some of you feel this season should be any different. We support for the surprise win, not for us the expectation of victory like a Leeds or a team bought for success like a Salford. Our expectations are lower but the victories are so much sweeter, this season more then ever, so why demand your money back now I could probably think of several games in previous seasons where our performance on the field was well below what was expected.

Gutting because of the opposition, but as you would expect of the 3rd place team, they were comprehensively better than us right across the park; did anyone want their money back when we got beat by Leeds?

I smell a rat. It makes me wonder if the players know something the supporters don't. I have seen that many performances like that over the years, only for the club to make an announcement later.
I DONT THINK THINGS ARE RIGHT.

well they'd better get playing better as this club will not survive in the lower league

Think you are right Snowie. Lets hope the players get their fingers out. A much improved performance for the next game will help.
It does make you wonder how a team of professional players can perform that badly though.

If the players do know something isn't right they must have only found out recently in the last week. 2 good performances against Hull and Widnes are proof of that.

I smell BS to be honest. Why look for conspiracy when there isn't one, it's a bit of a myth this one anyway. It's a simple case of poor coaching and bad attitude, don't let the players off that easy

About time the attitude was changed get those players in thornes park running up and down that hill.Turn round to them and tell them training is 8 hours per day only rest days will be day before and day after a game until things change.
It certainly makes you sick when you have given up precious leisure time with your family to help out at the ground and not for reward but pride in the club you follow.You then get performances like that from the side who are better paid than the vast number of fans.Do I want my money back "No" just for the players to give it maximum effort its more fool me for spending that hard earned money watching that garbage when there are hundreds of other things I could spend it on.

It's a nice image isn't it, but modern sports science acknowledges that recovery is an integral part of training; beasting the players up and down cannonball hill 6 days a week would result in them being tired, undercooked and ill-prepared for the rigours of a SL game.

I understand the thinking, but they're not U12's who've left the clubhouse in a mess after an away game.