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| Can someone tell me which players are on contract for next season, and who is out of contract/leaving?
Current Squad... (as per Wakey website)
1. Matt Blaymire
2. Damien Blanch
3. Sean Gleeson
4. Darryl Millard
5. Luke George
6. Ben Jeffries
10. Michael Korkidas
11. Dale Ferguson
12. Glenn Morrsion
13. Jason Demetriou
14. Sam Obst
15. Kyle Bibb
16. Paul Johnson
17. Kevin Henderson
18. Aaron Murphy
19. Paul King
20. Tevita Leo-Latu
21. Paul Cooke
23. Dale Morton
24. James Davey
25. Richard Moore
26. Matthew Wildie
27. Russell Spiers
28. Kyle Trout
29. Matthew King
30. Danny Cowling
31. Ben Gledhill
32. Danny Kirmond
33. Kieran Hyde
34. Karl Olstrom
35. Charlie Leaeno
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| The following players have had very little game time, if any for some. Should we be blooding more of them so that they are getting valuable experience, especially as some of the first team aren't performing magnificently week in week out?
26. Matthew Wildie
27. Russell Spiers
28. Kyle Trout
29. Matthew King 1 game
30. Danny Cowling
31. Ben Gledhill 5 games
33. Kieran Hyde 1 game
34. Karl Olstrom
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| Quote ="Richie_L"The following players have had very little game time, if any for some. Should we be blooding more of them so that they are getting valuable experience, especially as some of the first team aren't performing magnificently week in week out?
26. Matthew Wildie
27. Russell Spiers
28. Kyle Trout
29. Matthew King 1 game
30. Danny Cowling
31. Ben Gledhill 5 games
33. Kieran Hyde 1 game
34. Karl Olstrom'"
King and Olstrom released
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3. Sean Gleeson - OOC
11. Dale Ferguson - OOC? www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 3898702.jp
13. Jason Demetriou - OOC (No renewal to be offered)
15. Kyle Bibb - OOC
16. Paul Johnson - OOC
19. Paul King - OOC
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - ??
21. Paul Cooke - OOC
32. Danny Kirmond - Loan Finishes
34. Karl Olstrom - Released
35. Charlie Leaeno - Contracted until possibly 2011, depends upon his performances!!
Rinaldi is also OOC although i believe it's already agreed he will return to France. King & Ferguson should be kept asap.
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3. Sean Gleeson - OOC
11. Dale Ferguson - OOC? www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 3898702.jp
13. Jason Demetriou - OOC (No renewal to be offered)
15. Kyle Bibb - OOC
16. Paul Johnson - OOC
19. Paul King - OOC
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - ??
21. Paul Cooke - OOC
32. Danny Kirmond - Loan Finishes
34. Karl Olstrom - Released
35. Charlie Leaeno - Contracted until possibly 2011, depends upon his performances!!
Rinaldi is also OOC although i believe it's already agreed he will return to France. King & Ferguson should be kept asap.
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| Def give King another year, i was hoping Korki and Moore would be out of contract and not renewed..Although we could prob get a fee for Moore..
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| 3. Sean Gleeson - I think he is better than some think on here but even I have doubts now.
11. Dale Ferguson - Really not sure. Think I'd keep
13. Jason Demetriou - No renewal to be offered - I'd keep but that ship has sailed
15. Kyle Bibb - No
16. Paul Johnson - Possibly keep but contract would have to be right
19. Paul King - Would def keep
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - Could keep but think I'd let him go for Brit
21. Paul Cooke - No
32. Danny Kirmond - Would keep
34. Karl Olstrom - Released
35. Charlie Leaeno - Would keep
Rinaldi going home but if he wanted to stay I'd keep him.
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Def give King another year, i was hoping Korki and Moore would be out of contract and not renewed..Although we could prob get a fee for Moore..'"
Moore is below par at the moment no doubt but in his time with us he's played well enough to be given my backing for next season. Hopefully his poor form is not as a result of his crohns as that would be a concern
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| Quote ="Schunter"Moore is below par at the moment no doubt but in his time with us he's played well enough to be given my backing for next season. Hopefully his poor form is not as a result of his crohns as that would be a concern'"
Fair play to him for coming back from that awful desease but he seems to be going back to the days before he came to trin, when he was lacking some entusiasm and heart..Been very poor this season in my eyes...if he was working in a normal job, he'd prob been sacked or made redundant..
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| If being out of contract didn't matter I'd do this:
1. Matt Blaymire - no
2. Damien Blanch - maybe
3. Sean Gleeson - no
4. Darryl Millard - yes
5. Luke George - yes
6. Ben Jeffries - yes
10. Michael Korkidas - yes
11. Dale Ferguson - yes
12. Glenn Morrsion - yes
13. Jason Demetriou - yes if my choice
14. Sam Obst - yes
15. Kyle Bibb - noooo
16. Paul Johnson - no
17. Kevin Henderson - yes
18. Aaron Murphy - yes
19. Paul King - yes
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - no
21. Paul Cooke - no
23. Dale Morton - yes
24. James Davey - yes
25. Richard Moore - yes
26. Matthew Wildie - yes
27. Russell Spiers - give more time so yes
28. Kyle Trout - give more time so yes
29. Matthew King - no
30. Danny Cowling - give more time so yes
31. Ben Gledhill - yes
32. Danny Kirmond - yes
33. Kieran Hyde - give more time so yes
34. Karl Olstrom - no
35. Charlie Leaeno - yes
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| Moore is 'busted' and keeps putting his hand up to play, operation due at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="PHe"Moore is 'busted' and keeps putting his hand up to play, operation due at the end of the season.'"
If hes not fit he shouldnt be playing...Simple as that...
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| Quote ="PopTart"If being out of contract didn't matter I'd do this:
1. Matt Blaymire - no
2. Damien Blanch - maybe
3. Sean Gleeson - no
4. Darryl Millard - yes
5. Luke George - yes
6. Ben Jeffries - yes
10. Michael Korkidas - yes
11. Dale Ferguson - yes
12. Glenn Morrsion - yes
13. Jason Demetriou - yes if my choice
14. Sam Obst - yes
15. Kyle Bibb - noooo
16. Paul Johnson - no
17. Kevin Henderson - yes
18. Aaron Murphy - yes
19. Paul King - yes
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - no
21. Paul Cooke - no
23. Dale Morton - yes
24. James Davey - yes
25. Richard Moore - yes
26. Matthew Wildie - yes
27. Russell Spiers - give more time so yes
28. Kyle Trout - give more time so yes
29. Matthew King - no
30. Danny Cowling - give more time so yes
31. Ben Gledhill - yes
32. Danny Kirmond - yes
33. Kieran Hyde - give more time so yes
34. Karl Olstrom - no
35. Charlie Leaeno - yes'"
Yes I go along with that lot,as always it's all about who you can get to replace the players you don't want for next season.There has got to be some changes in the backs for next year,a winger and is a must as well as a playmaker.
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| I'd like to see more young British players being given a chance from the lower leagues rather than seeing if foreign players can adapt in time. It would do us a great deal of good PR if we could be the springboard for lower league players to come up to SL with us.
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| I've said it before and I'll say it again, Obst is a 100%er and will play well above his weight, however he is not worthy of a quota spot in my opinion. Millard is the worst magician I've ever seen, unfortunately he's contracted for next year, lets hope he does a pat richards and improves ten fold! Blanch has gone backwards big time and doesn't deserve a new deal. Latu has spark and unpredictability however he's also not consistent enough but if it was my choice I'd keep him, Morrison already signed and he's by far our best overseas player, OK he may give a few pens away but the work he puts in is second to none, he must be a very frustrated man playing with this shower. Leano has looked a decent addition so I'd be tempted to give him another go, it would be interesting to see how he goes with a full pre-season behind him. Korkis not our player so that ones out of our hands however i do believe he'll be back next year on a season long loan basis again (correct me if I'm wrong). Jeffries is already contracted but really does need to improve, he was nothing short of woeful v Saints. Of the English lads I'd let Gleeson go, not super league standard, George can go, 10/11 games a season is not good enough, too soft. Blaymire could go if we have a replacement lined up, Hyde doesn't look anywhere near ready for me. Cooke has shown signs of what he can do but as I've said on another thread he hasn't had much choice in the way of runners to pick out, the only way it could work out with him is if we have a very dominant scrum half, which we don't so its bye bye. Kyle Bibb has had enough chances not only with us but at quins and hkr too and hasnt taken them so he's got to go. Johnson is a grafter and tries but he drops far too much ball, would only keep if we could get him cheap. We really do need some big changes for 2011 but I can see us going for the cheap option yet again and with the signings salford are making and the new coaching regime at catalans we could well end up with the wooden spoon if this is the case. If that happens for me it will be the final nail in the coffin as it will give the authorities the perfect excuse to kick us out. We need to sign some real quality for next season. I hope we are in for the likes of Gareth Moore etc from the championship rather than signing second rate aussies who can't get a gig back home.
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Def give King another year, i was hoping Korki and Moore would be out of contract and not renewed..Although we could prob get a fee for Moore..'" check your stats mate only one other prop done more yards than korkidas and the rubbish you keep talking about knees and elbows imo is just that . with the wrestling techniques that are employed by most teams now you don't gain the advantage with a quick play. when he is on the floor he works hard to get up and has pulled quite a few penalties from oposition. his last stint with us he gave quite a few penalties , his present stint he has not been bad in that respect. if we are talking penalties glenn morrison great player, like the guy but gives far too many penalties. imo the props this year have been ok. we have been let down badly by the backs but thaen again thats just my opinion. as for richard the guy is a bit up and down but i think his health is a problem. as far as fozzard is concerned he wasn't interested before, he has had his best days . we can do better.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat" Korkis not our player so that ones out of our hands however i do believe he'll be back next year on a season long loan basis again (correct me if I'm wrong). '"
Korky is our player, he came as part of the Brough deal.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Korky is our player, he came as part of the Brough deal.'"
Correct.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Korky is our player, he came as part of the Brough deal.'"
I think you mean the Brough 'deal'.
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| Quote ="J.T"I think you mean the Brough 'deal'.'"
Or as its turned out from our perspective the rough deal
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| From what I remember he came as part of the brough deal on loan for this season and next with Hudds picking up part of his wages
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| Sorry but have to disagree, for me, for the best part of the season, Korki has probably been our most consistant prop, and we know that Moore is carrying a injury, and has been most of the season.
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| to add to the Korki part of this thread, people have been moaning about the "knees and elbows" and say he is not good at the play the ball. I have watched him specifically on a number of occassions to se if I could spot this as I thought I might be missing something.
In the games I watched him, he hardly ever got roled over. He didn't always get quick play the balls but he didn't lose battles when they tried to turn him over.
What he does do is continue in the tackle after the hit. This isn't a quick play the ball but he consistently gets us more yards, and tires their defense by doing it.
If there is one thing we have been good at this year it is making yards, and all the props (and other forwards) give us that. We always get out of our half and make it to good positions for the attack. The problem is our last plays are poor so it often goes to waste.
If we fix the distribution and organisation, we''ll be set.
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| 1. Matt Blaymire - yes, he might not be mr dynamic but he's solid and safe and gets over the line a few times also home grown
2. Damien Blanch - no, big advocate of him in the past but not this season
3. Sean Gleeson - no, don't know what to say! go get a coaching badge or something
4. Darryl Millard - yes, needs to lose half a stone and sharpen up, show us some class and take some control
5. Luke George - yes, but last season of mediocrity or your outahere!
6. Ben Jeffries - yes, if he can get some consistancy and take the line on more.
10. Michael Korkidas - yes, just work on some of the little things
11. Dale Ferguson - yes, but get back to your natural game and stop playing like a donkey there's more to you than workload
12. Glenn Morrsion - yes, although I'm not as enamoured as some
13. Jason Demetriou - No, sadly, if I could have 17 young JDs I'd have them tomorrow but time snares us all.
14. Sam Obst - yes, I share the opinion that overseas players should be world beaters but Sam offer something else
15. Kyle Bibb - no, the only argument for is youth but there's been nothing to grab onto to make a case for him
16. Paul Johnson - no, not his fault just too many injuries and too old to make a case for him
17. Kevin Henderson - no, I'm torn here, if he was English then maybe as a 100%er but not as non fed
18. Aaron Murphy - yes, definite
19. Paul King - yes, like Moore needs to bottle that feeling of injustice and take it out on the oppsition
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - no, not consistant enough but great to watch when he plays well
21. Paul Cooke - no,
23. Dale Morton - yes, needs to find a way of putting on some size whilst also gaining some extra pace
24. James Davey - yes, needs to raise a gear to force the coach into picking him
25. Richard Moore - yes, on banked performances but needs to remember his early attitude to being given a chance
26. Matthew Wildie - yes, must be close to getting a run and only that will tell us if he has it or not
27. Russell Spiers - yes, continue his progression
28. Kyle Trout - yes, needs to step it up to force the coach's hand
29. Matthew King - unknown
30. Danny Cowling - give more time so yes
31. Ben Gledhill - yes, but he needs an off season of weights to pack on some upper body muscle
32. Danny Kirmond - yes, but it's not Trinity's decision
33. Kieran Hyde - Has'nt really had a chance yet so yes
34. Karl Olstrom - no, apparently already gone!
35. Charlie Leaeno - yes, I think with a full pre season and more team familiarity he will be a good player
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2. Damien Blanch - Yes
3. Sean Gleeson - No
4. Darryl Millard - Yes
5. Luke George - No, believe Morton should be given more of a chance
6. Ben Jeffries - Yes
10. Michael Korkidas - Yes
11. Dale Ferguson - Yes, Offer him a new cotract asap!!
12. Glenn Morrsion - Yes, possible captain next year?
13. Jason Demetriou - No, Sadly.. JD leaves with a good name at Wakefield.
14. Sam Obst - Deffinitely.. Another contender for captain.
15. Kyle Bibb - No
16. Paul Johnson - No, pinching money IMO
17. Kevin Henderson - Yes, strong tackler and doesn't hesitate to run it in hard.
18. Aaron Murphy - Offer him a 10 year contract.
19. Paul King - Yes
20. Tevita Leo-Latu - No, give way to Davey?
21. Paul Cooke - Not too sure.
23. Dale Morton - Yes, should be given the number 5 shirt next season IMO.
24. James Davey - Yes, should be given more first team chances/
25. Richard Moore - No, if we get Wheeldon.
26. Matthew Wildie - Yes, give him more game time!!!
27. Russell Spiers - Yes
28. Kyle Trout - Yes
29. Matthew King - Released so No.
30. Danny Cowling - Yes
31. Ben Gledhill - Yes, should get more first team games next year.
32. Danny Kirmond - Try and agree a deal with Shudds, deffintly a key player in our backrow.
33. Kieran Hyde - Yes, contender for fullback??
34. Karl Olstrom - Unknown
35. Charlie Leaeno - Yes, the assess the situation at the end of next season,
As for Rinaldi, probably give him another season... Offers something to our team when hes on the field.
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| Regarding Kirmond, in an interview with Radio Leeds aired today, he states that Nathan Brown has been in contact with him regarding his future after their signing(s) and he has 'reassured' him that his future lies with Hudds and DK seemed to be happy with this.
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