Was that the worst England team ever v the worst Welsh team ever refereed by the worst referee ever?


Bet the Cas fans are glad that Shenton took no part in the game.



Remember once going across to watch England v Wales at Salford when we had Topliss, Sheard and Mick Morgan playing. Dave Chisnall and Jim Mills warmed things up at the 1st scrum. Big, big difference to the home internations of today.

No No and yes!



Worst England team - no, doubt it. They didn't play well and struggled for timing and motivation - but I'd rather that now that us stuff the Welsh and then play crap in the main event - like last year

Worst Welsh team - no worse than last year - and without the 'names'. I thought there was a lot of promise and genuine effort in there and for a young side I think there are some good signs.

Worst referee - probably not, but he had a bad one and I thought he was particularly harsh on the Welsh on a few occassions - cost them the game it did!

our game is in dire straights, hardly any class players, no squad depth, boring rugby, run by idiots with no idea, the rfl what a joke. wel probably hear all the same stuff like its a learning curve, well weve been learning since 82 and still got no nearer. we also had class players in the late 80s and 90s with flair, now weve robots. i realy hope the aussies give us a right pasting then maybe we can stop papering over the cracks and sort the issues out.

Have you been listening to Wakeystan????

Personally thought Sam Burgess stood out by miles,His offloads changed the game for England as our game looked flat and lacking ideas.

Also I guess Tony Smith is babbing himself with regards stopping the Aussie backline hence trying Sean O'Loughlin in the centres,Has he ever played there before in his professional career as he looked very unused and lost!

I thought that was the standard for an English centre?

the game was a shambles.I really cannot wait to see the aussies rape the england backline,it really will be unmissable.Paul sykes really did ruin his england aspirations utter rubbish.

not all aussie rugby players are rapists, just a lot of them!!!!

Not disappointed at all me.
Thought the youngsters done really well, OK the last 20 mins were a given anyway.
But I see a future, and our new coach does also.
From little daffodils, etc. etc.

where do you see the future, two good forwards finishing in the next couple of years, morley and peacock, no depth in the pack for the young halfs to play behind. no centres, no full back, come to think weve not much at all realy. hope the aussies batter us

when Great Britain got smashed in Australia in the one off test a few years back that was sounded out as being the turning point in out international setup both for team selection and grass roots. Since then and if it's possible I think we've got even worse. Proof will be in the next month. I hope I'm wrong.

He was talking about Wales!

I also remember going to that game and nobody is going to convince me that the game is better today faster yes but in those days we had players with guile and skill most teams had decent stand offs scrum halves loose forwards centres and remember hookers
What a bloody mess the game is in I would struggle to name 5 half decent English players in the key positions as for centres we have none we have very few worldwide
I blame the Aussies they wanted a faster game we got it but lost the skill

For some of the "more mature" on here (old gits like me

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Look at this backline from the GB team that toured Australia in 1962.

Gerry Round
Billy Boston
Eric Ashton
Neil Fox
Mick Sullivan
David Bolton
Alex Murphy

The standard of todays backs make you weep after watching those players.

The clue was in the daffodils.





OK it's a big Daisy.