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Petero Civoniceva (Penrith), Cooper Cronk (Melbourne), Robbie Farah (Wests Tigers), Israel Folau (Brisbane), Paul Gallen (Cronulla), Kurt Gidley (Newcastle), Ben Hannant (Bulldogs), Jarryd Hayne (Parramatta), Nathan Hindmarsh (Parramatta), Justin Hodges (Brisbane), Ryan Hoffman (Melbourne), Greg Inglis (Melbourne), Michael Jennings (Penrith),
Darren Lockyer (capt, Brisbane), Luke Lewis (Penrith), Josh Morris (Bulldogs),
David Shillington (Canberra), Billy Slater (Melbourne), Cameron Smith (Melbourne), Sam Thaiday (Brisbane), Johnathan Thurston (North Queensland), Trent Waterhouse (Penrith), Anthony Watmough (Manly),
Brett White (Melbourne).
[uPossible Starting line-up[/u
1. Billy Slater
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Greg Inglis
4. Justin Hodges
5. Israel Folau
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Johnathon Thuraton
8. Petero Civoniceva
9. Cameron Smith
10. Ben Hannant
11. Anthony Watmough
12. Sam Thaiday
13. Paul Gallen
14. Kurt Gidley
15. Brett White
16. David Shillington
17. Nathan Hindmarsh
Leaving out:
Cooper Cronk
Robbie Farah
Ryan Hoffman
Michael Jennings
Luke Lewis
Josh Morris
Trent Waterhouse.
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Adam Blair (Melbourne), Greg Eastwood (Leeds), Nathan Fien (St George Illawarra), Kieran Foran (Manly), Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury), Bronson Harrison (Canberra), Lance Hohaia (NZ Warriors), Krisnan Inu (Parramatta), Thomas Leuluai (Wigan), Jeff Lima (Melbourne), Kevin Locke (NZ Warriors), Issac Luke (South Sydney), Benji Marshall (Wests Tigers capt), Steve Matai (Manly), Ben Matulino (NZ Warriors), Fuifui Moimoi (Parramatta), Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra), Frank-Paul Nuuausala (Sydney Roosters), Sam Perrett (Sydney Roosters), Frank Pritchard (Penrith), Junior Sau (Newcastle), Iosia Soliola (St Helens), Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (Manly).
[uPossible starting line-up.[/u
1. Hohaia
2. Nightingale
3. Inu
4. Matai
5. Goodwin
6. Marshall(C)
7. Leuluai
8. Lima
9. Fien
10. Frank-Paul Nuuausala
11. Blair(VC)
12. Pritchard
13. Harrison
14. Luke
15. Moi Moi
16. Waerea-Hargreaves
17. Eastwood/Locke
Where screwed although it will be a priveledge to see that australian back line in action.
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| Quote Where screwed although it will be a priveledge to see that australian back line in action'"
What a ridiculous suggestion. Have you not heard Keith Senior is pondering a return to international rugby. Their players will be filled with nothing but trepidation!
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| Looking forward to seeing Anthony Watmough most.....
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| You could make up another Aussie side out of players who didnt make the squad and they would still probably win the tournament..
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Looking forward to seeing Anthony Watmough most.....'"
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| So 12 players picked from clubs who didn't make the play offs in England training squad. People like Tom Briscoe, Tickle, Ratchford, Clubb, Sykes and Higham. Complete joke. Wakey finish 5th and have nobody selected, what about Moore, Brough, Blaymire or Ferguson? Add to this the switch to England from Ireland of Harrison and Bridge and it seems obvious that Tony Smith is using the job to give his own squad players international experience and game time just like Noble.
This is why I will always support anybody who plays England/GB in Rugby League.
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| This is the sort of team you could make up of aussies that didnt make the squad...it looks pretty devastating..all have played origin rugby as well
1 Matt Bowen
2 Darius Boyd
3 Jamie Lyon
4 Jamal Idris
5 David Williams
6 Trent Barrett
7 Scott Prince
8 Justin Poore
9 Michael Ennis
10 Steve Price
11 Luke O'Donnell
12 Ben Creagh
13 Dallas Johnson
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Quote ="trin77"So 12 players picked from clubs who didn't make the play offs in England training squad. People like Tom Briscoe, Tickle, Ratchford, Clubb, Sykes and Higham. Complete joke. Wakey finish 5th and have nobody selected, what about Moore, Brough, Blaymire or Ferguson? Add to this the switch to England from Ireland of Harrison and Bridge and it seems obvious that Tony Smith is using the job to give his own squad players international experience and game time just like Noble.
This is why I will always support anybody who plays England/GB in Rugby League.'"
Who coincidentally sign extended contracts..
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 295625.stm
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Quote ="trin77"So 12 players picked from clubs who didn't make the play offs in England training squad. People like Tom Briscoe, Tickle, Ratchford, Clubb, Sykes and Higham. Complete joke. Wakey finish 5th and have nobody selected, what about Moore, Brough, Blaymire or Ferguson? Add to this the switch to England from Ireland of Harrison and Bridge and it seems obvious that Tony Smith is using the job to give his own squad players international experience and game time just like Noble.
This is why I will always support anybody who plays England/GB in Rugby League.'"
Who coincidentally sign extended contracts..
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 295625.stm
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Darren Lockyer (capt, Brisbane), Luke Lewis (Penrith), Josh Morris (Bulldogs),
David Shillington (Canberra), Billy Slater (Melbourne), Cameron Smith (Melbourne), Sam Thaiday (Brisbane), Johnathan Thurston (North Queensland), Trent Waterhouse (Penrith), Anthony Watmough (Manly),
Brett White (Melbourne).
[uPossible Starting line-up[/u
1. Billy Slater
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Greg Inglis
4. Justin Hodges
5. Israel Folau
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Johnathon Thuraton
8. Petero Civoniceva
9. Cameron Smith
10. Ben Hannant
11. Anthony Watmough
12. Sam Thaiday
13. Paul Gallen
14. Kurt Gidley
15. Brett White
16. David Shillington
17. Nathan Hindmarsh
Leaving out:
Cooper Cronk
Robbie Farah
Ryan Hoffman
Michael Jennings
Luke Lewis
Josh Morris
Trent Waterhouse.
[uNew Zealand[/u
Adam Blair (Melbourne), Greg Eastwood (Leeds), Nathan Fien (St George Illawarra), Kieran Foran (Manly), Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury), Bronson Harrison (Canberra), Lance Hohaia (NZ Warriors), Krisnan Inu (Parramatta), Thomas Leuluai (Wigan), Jeff Lima (Melbourne), Kevin Locke (NZ Warriors), Issac Luke (South Sydney), Benji Marshall (Wests Tigers capt), Steve Matai (Manly), Ben Matulino (NZ Warriors), Fuifui Moimoi (Parramatta), Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra), Frank-Paul Nuuausala (Sydney Roosters), Sam Perrett (Sydney Roosters), Frank Pritchard (Penrith), Junior Sau (Newcastle), Iosia Soliola (St Helens), Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (Manly).
[uPossible starting line-up.[/u
1. Hohaia
2. Nightingale
3. Inu
4. Matai
5. Goodwin
6. Marshall(C)
7. Leuluai
8. Lima
9. Fien
10. Frank-Paul Nuuausala
11. Blair(VC)
12. Pritchard
13. Harrison
14. Luke
15. Moi Moi
16. Waerea-Hargreaves
17. Eastwood/Locke
Where screwed
although it will be a priveledge to see that australian back line in action.'"
very scary squad for Aus, but gallen is no way a International 13, he is the worst 13 I have ever seen play for the green and gold, and IMHO only got in due to Ricky Stupot being the coach.
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| Quote ="i8no-one"very scary squad for Aus, but gallen is no way a International 13, he is the worst 13 I have ever seen play for the green and gold, and IMHO only got in due to Ricky Stupot being the coach.'"
Good point about Gallen...after watching the 3 SOO tests i cant beleive Dallas Johnson doesnt get the nod at 13 for the Aussies.
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| Apart from being a dirty get, Gallen is a pretty awesome backrower imo
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| i believe falou has pulled out injured, so we have a chance (none)!!
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"You could make up another Aussie side out of players who didnt make the squad and they would still probably win the tournament..'" You could make up 2 or 3 more too.
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Chris Bridge (Warrington), Shaun Briscoe (Hull KR), Sam Burgess (Bradford), Garreth Carvell (Warrington), Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield), Kyle Eastmond (St Helens), Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers), Peter Fox (Hull KR), James Graham (St Helens), Ryan Hall (Leeds), Danny McGuire (Leeds), Scott Moore (Huddersfield), Adrian Morley (Warrington), Richard Myler (Salford), Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), Jamie Peacock (Leeds, capt), James Roby (St Helens), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Lee Smith (Leeds), Paul Sykes (Bradford), Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Jon Wilkin (St Helens).
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2. Hall
3. Shenton
4. Eastmond
5. Smith
6. Myler
7. Tomkins
8. Peacock
9. Moore
10. Graham
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin
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| Why is Lee Smith in the squad,The guys defecting thus making his inclusion the most pointless selection of all considering the team is meant to be in transition for the future.
And OK Kevin Sinfield is a talisman for the Rhinos but how many more times does he have to be shown up for his un-international class when it comes to playing teams that actually show him for what he is!The guys in his own within the Leeds team but within an International set-up he's been proven to be sub-standard on not just a handful of occasions.
Don't fancy our backline against the Aussies but were not blessed with English centres at present.
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| Quote ="Green Greedo"Why is Lee Smith in the squad,The guys defecting thus making his inclusion the most pointless selection of all considering the team is meant to be in transition for the future.'"
Nothing personal - but I think this is the kind of attitude that holds us back as a nation.
Sport is about winning - here and now. The Aussies play them for as long as they are available and producing the goods. In England we always seem to be building - never seemingly arriving where we are meant to be going. This is the same in football; cricket et al... even Yorkshire are using the excuse in sacking Hoggy - even though he is their leading wicket taker this year and deserves so much better treatment.
We are woefully weak in the backline this year - and Smith offers us a little bit of class IMO - so if he says he's available - I say run with it.
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| i understand your point but dont agree with any of it..
Smith offers nothing that will worry the australian backline (and unless he has a clause in his contract that guarentees he can only sign back to rl with Warrington... I can see no logic to the selection)... and the rest of the backs... well it realy is men against boys...
the danger is that plyers like tompkins. myler et al will be destroyed, and their confidence shattered.
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| Too many small lads for my liking in the backs. I generally like the squad he has picked but fear for the likes of Shenton & Eastmond out wide with probably McGuire and Myler against some huge Aussies and Kiwis
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| Quote ="underground"i understand your point but dont agree with any of it..
Smith offers nothing that will worry the australian backline (and unless he has a clause in his contract that guarentees he can only sign back to rl with Warrington... I can see no logic to the selection)... and the rest of the backs... well it realy is men against boys...
the danger is that plyers like tompkins. myler et al will be destroyed, and their confidence shattered.'"
What do you suggest otherwise? Whatever team we put out i think we'll be totally outclassed...
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Too many small lads for my liking in the backs. I generally like the squad he has picked but fear for the likes of Shenton & Eastmond out wide with probably McGuire and Myler against some huge Aussies and Kiwis'"
Earlier on this season I got a freebie at Cas as the brother-in-law is a sponsor and I witnessed Michael Shenton get absolutely outclassed by Matt Gidley who many reckon he's passed it and nowhere near international standard anymore.Greg Inglis is going to think its a stroll in the park next month.
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Good point about Gallen...after watching the 3 SOO tests i cant beleive Dallas Johnson doesnt get the nod at 13 for the Aussies.'"
im gutted about dallas johnson not being selected,the guy is a tackling machine and more.Would love to see him in a wakey shirt
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"What do you suggest otherwise? Whatever team we put out i think we'll be totally outclassed...'"
I agree that we dont have the class of player to challenge Australia...
But I would like to see how the Aussies stand up to a physical challenge... with a bit of old fashioned British ball playing... therefore my selection for the Australia game (and I await being ripped apart) is based on size and guile.
1. Leon Pryce
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glad I am not the coach and have to select a losing team for real....
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| No Wakefield representatives in any of the forthcoming internationals means it's just another general sporting event as far as I'm concerned.
Very difficult to get behind players such as Chris Bridge who has made the squad/team merely on the back of his association with Tony Smith.
I might even chuckle a bit when the Aussies wipe the floor with England and be thankfull that none of our lads will be tarred with a brush somewhat like Stuart Fielden.
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| Quote ="underground"I agree that we dont have the class of player to challenge Australia...
But I would like to see how the Aussies stand up to a physical challenge... with a bit of old fashioned British ball playing... therefore my selection for the Australia game (and I await being ripped apart) is based on size and guile.
1. Leon Pryce
2. Kyle Eastmond
3. Gareth Ellis
4. Rob Purdam
5. Ryan Hall
6. Paul Cooke
7. Danny Brough
8. Adrian Morley
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10. James Graham
11. Sam Burgess
12. Ben Westwood
13. Kevin Sinfield
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15. Joel Tompkins
16. Luke Burgess
17. Eorl Crabtree
glad I am not the coach and have to select a losing team for real....
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i totally agree with ya mate...i think our only chance against the aussies is to stick it up them... smash them about... ellis at centre for me is the only way of keeping inglis quiet ish... he'll walk over the likes of shenton but ellis would be more formidable
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"i totally agree with ya mate...i think our only chance against the aussies is to stick it up them... smash them about... ellis at centre for me is the only way of keeping inglis quiet ish... he'll walk over the likes of shenton but ellis would be more formidable'"
On several NRL forums practically every Wests supporter states that Gareth Ellis has been their best tackler this season.
Ellis for 1 centre spot does seem to be the only viable option to try to keep their monster backline at bay.
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