I saw it as a valid post - Toby King is fantastic (Probably the best in the league) under the high ball. He made Ryan Hall look very ordinary in the CC SF, so I don`t think it is trolling to highlight that and I hope we put men around Jowitt when those kicks go up as a bit of protection as other sides seem to be doing and getting away with.

I think you may be misunderstanding his point, maybe getting mixed up with Toby and George.

Anyone know what we are looking like on the injury front? Apparently had 17 players fit last week and a few went off injured in the Cas match.

We don't do that shepherd thing very well at all do we; as far as I can see, most teams have a few people assigned to that job, and if they're not blatantly stupid about it, they can disrupt oncoming players sufficiently to give the fb a bit of breathing space.

Injuries should not be used as an excuse. We had 17 fit full time professional players on the pitch against Cas, sadly they were given perhaps the worst ever game plan in the history of the game. Against Warrington we need to be aggressive, we need to fire into them and let them know that we mean business, put some doubt in their players minds about getting through the match unscathed with the semi final coming up next week. We should play simple mistake free Rugby, keep it simple, complete sets, win field position, take the two when on offer, defend like our life depends on it, look for repeat sets. You know the just the sort of thing the players should have been told what to do against Cas.

Hard to argue with that.
Complete sets, no penalties and no sending off/sin bins would definitely help.

Not actually correct though is it - when your key playmaker, your'e start winger and two of your three biggest players are missing then clearly it makes a huge difference!

Was a stupid gameplan if you could even call it tha didn't help that's for sure - oh well you live and learn.

Added to that, I'm not sure how you know they were all fit before the game Belly.

But equally, if Grix had made that a longer kick, BJB would have beaten the fullback to the ball and everyone would have said we were wonderfully inventive.
Sometimes you have to take a chance. It didn't come off.

Keeping it tight against Warrington only works so far. Our strength is in the attacking speed of our backs. We need to get the ball to them, not stuff it up the jumper safety rugby.

I know we're not just talking about the kick off here but, there was a thread a few weeks ago bemoaning our lack of variety with kick offs.
At Cas, we did try to vary the kick of and IIRC, we managed to retain the ball twice but, equally, sacrificed field position on a number of occasions.
Surely we should be playing the game "properly", kick deep and defend for our lives.
I know that this may look boring but, there is a reason why most sides play this way.
An occasional "off the cull play" is ok but, there has to be some structure in what we are trying to do (for the majority of the game).
The game against Cas was with a massively weakened side and the result wasn't ever in doubt really.
Again, there is a massive difference in say, getting the ball wider early on in the tackle count and playing without structure.

Doesn't this guy make you sick Evertyime somebody says something he calls you a troll. Give it a rest, It's getting boring pal

Maybe you're not but that's the problem isn't it, nobody can tell anymore and that's what really makes it boring on here at times.

it doesn't make you boring having an opinion. If it's what you think, & it doesn't make youa troll

19 man for Friday. Good to see young lad Lewis Wray in there

Annakin
Arona
Arundel
Ashurst
Batchelor
Crowther
Hampshire
Horo
Huby
Jones-Bishop
Jowitt
Kirmond
Lyne
Miller
Pauli
Randell
Tupou
Wood
Wray

What position does Wray play? I can't remember.

Plays in the second row.

As mentioned earlier that 1st play kick could have come off and I've no prob with them trying it. What I do have a problem with is then not being capable of defending our line for 6 tackles keeping Cas out.

Fairly strong squad named by Warrington?

Akauola
Atkins
Charnley
Clark
Cooper
Goodwin
Hill
Hughes
Luis Johnson
G King
T King
Livett
BMM
Patton
Philbin
Ratchford
Smith
Thompson
Westwood

Considering they have a huge semi final game next week, I was expecting 4/5 of those to be rested.
Usually, you would say hit them with everything we have in the first 20 mins and see if they are really up for it but, we look so small/light in the front row, I'm not sure that this would achieve anything.
I'd be tempted to have Pauli on at the start just to test them but, I'm struggling to see past a Warrington win

Agree with those tactics and I don't think you need a big side to do that. Remember that time we played Cas we went after Gale time after time and in the end he had to go off injured. You don't need to go after every wire player just one or to key ones.


Like they say if they want the 2pts let them pay the butchers bill.

I would expect if one of their key players got hit, they would be substituted dead quick

If Lewis Wray makes his debut and doesn't make 50 breaks, score a couple of tries and send some of the Wire forwards to A and E then sack him off.

if he'd played a few seasons & been given a chance like someone your reffering to, I'd say yes sack him OR put him on a three year contract

You make out like Jowitt's been the first choice FB during his time at the club, but the fact is he got a chance to start at FB in 2016 and was Rookie of the year. Since then he's been basically Grix's back up and mainly played when Grix has been injured or rested. Hardly the best scenario for a young player to develop fully at 21 is it. The Club obviously sees a future in him hence his contract and he's playing in one of the positions in RL that's one of the hardest to master, so I'll take their opinion over others.

All I hope is our wingers stay out wide and don’t get sucked in like at cas or it could be a long night ,oh and tackle around the legs to put the man down.
Sounds simple but boy we make hard work of it at times .
Whatever happens we’ve had a great season and confounded the critics once more ,now let’s throw the kitchen sink at the wires and send us on our way with a smile on our face.

I know what you mean KK, but the wingers do that because the centres have been sucked into the middle, as have the second row forwards......the winger is left exposed, what's he supposed to do?
This has been a problem for ages, I remember Peter Fox getting some stick on here for the same reason.