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| Last match of the season at home a win can see us finish 5th, we’re injury ravaged but hope we give it a go.
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| Surely Warrington won’t be throwing everything at this, with the semis coming up for them?
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| I think you're gonna be in trouble if you have to rely on the opposition not turning up.
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| Catalans play Shudds so maybe it will be sorted for us.
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| We'll have a fair chance of beating Warrington if we don't chip over the top and allow Wire to score on our first tackle.
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| Very worried that they'll chip over the top then it will be Toby king versus Jowitt oh my god the thought the'll get a bucket full
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"Very worried that they'll chip over the top then it will be Toby king versus Jowitt oh my god the thought the'll get a bucket full'"
Jowiit did pretty well one on one when Liam Watts burst through last night.
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"Very worried that they'll chip over the top then it will be Toby king versus Jowitt oh my god the thought the'll get a bucket full'"
Yet another incarnation anybody?
If not it's hard to believe there can be two of them.
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| I saw it as a valid post - Toby King is fantastic (Probably the best in the league) under the high ball. He made Ryan Hall look very ordinary in the CC SF, so I don`t think it is trolling to highlight that and I hope we put men around Jowitt when those kicks go up as a bit of protection as other sides seem to be doing and getting away with.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Jowiit did pretty well one on one when Liam Watts burst through last night.'"
I think you may be misunderstanding his point, maybe getting mixed up with Toby and George.
Anyone know what we are looking like on the injury front? Apparently had 17 players fit last week and a few went off injured in the Cas match.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I saw it as a valid post - Toby King is fantastic (Probably the best in the league) under the high ball. He made Ryan Hall look very ordinary in the CC SF, so I don`t think it is trolling to highlight that and I hope we put men around Jowitt when those kicks go up as a bit of protection as other sides seem to be doing and getting away with.'"
We don't do that shepherd thing very well at all do we; as far as I can see, most teams have a few people assigned to that job, and if they're not blatantly stupid about it, they can disrupt oncoming players sufficiently to give the fb a bit of breathing space.
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| Injuries should not be used as an excuse. We had 17 fit full time professional players on the pitch against Cas, sadly they were given perhaps the worst ever game plan in the history of the game. Against Warrington we need to be aggressive, we need to fire into them and let them know that we mean business, put some doubt in their players minds about getting through the match unscathed with the semi final coming up next week. We should play simple mistake free Rugby, keep it simple, complete sets, win field position, take the two when on offer, defend like our life depends on it, look for repeat sets. You know the just the sort of thing the players should have been told what to do against Cas.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Injuries should not be used as an excuse. We had 17 fit full time professional players on the pitch against Cas, sadly they were given perhaps the worst ever game plan in the history of the game. Against Warrington we need to be aggressive, we need to fire into them and let them know that we mean business, put some doubt in their players minds about getting through the match unscathed with the semi final coming up next week. We should play simple mistake free Rugby, keep it simple, complete sets, win field position, take the two when on offer, defend like our life depends on it, look for repeat sets. You know the just the sort of thing the players should have been told what to do against Cas.'"
Hard to argue with that.
Complete sets, no penalties and no sending off/sin bins would definitely help.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Injuries should not be used as an excuse. We had 17 fit full time professional players on the pitch against Cas, sadly they were given perhaps the worst ever game plan in the history of the game. Against Warrington we need to be aggressive, we need to fire into them and let them know that we mean business, put some doubt in their players minds about getting through the match unscathed with the semi final coming up next week. We should play simple mistake free Rugby, keep it simple, complete sets, win field position, take the two when on offer, defend like our life depends on it, look for repeat sets. You know the just the sort of thing the players should have been told what to do against Cas.'"
Not actually correct though is it - when your key playmaker, your'e start winger and two of your three biggest players are missing then clearly it makes a huge difference!
Was a stupid gameplan if you could even call it tha didn't help that's for sure - oh well you live and learn.
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| Added to that, I'm not sure how you know they were all fit before the game Belly.
But equally, if Grix had made that a longer kick, BJB would have beaten the fullback to the ball and everyone would have said we were wonderfully inventive.
Sometimes you have to take a chance. It didn't come off.
Keeping it tight against Warrington only works so far. Our strength is in the attacking speed of our backs. We need to get the ball to them, not stuff it up the jumper safety rugby.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Added to that, I'm not sure how you know they were all fit before the game Belly.
But equally, if Grix had made that a longer kick, BJB would have beaten the fullback to the ball and everyone would have said we were wonderfully inventive.
Sometimes you have to take a chance. It didn't come off.
Keeping it tight against Warrington only works so far. Our strength is in the attacking speed of our backs. We need to get the ball to them, not stuff it up the jumper safety rugby.'"
I know we're not just talking about the kick off here but, there was a thread a few weeks ago bemoaning our lack of variety with kick offs.
At Cas, we did try to vary the kick of and IIRC, we managed to retain the ball twice but, equally, sacrificed field position on a number of occasions.
Surely we should be playing the game "properly", kick deep and defend for our lives.
I know that this may look boring but, there is a reason why most sides play this way.
An occasional "off the cull play" is ok but, there has to be some structure in what we are trying to do (for the majority of the game).
The game against Cas was with a massively weakened side and the result wasn't ever in doubt really.
Again, there is a massive difference in say, getting the ball wider early on in the tackle count and playing without structure.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet another incarnation anybody?
If not it's hard to believe there can be two of them.'"
Doesn't this guy make you sick Evertyime somebody says something he calls you a troll. Give it a rest, It's getting boring pal
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"Doesn't this guy make you sick Evertyime somebody says something he calls you a troll. Give it a rest, It's getting boring pal'"
Maybe you're not but that's the problem isn't it, nobody can tell anymore and that's what really makes it boring on here at times.
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| it doesn't make you boring having an opinion. If it's what you think, & it doesn't make youa troll
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| 19 man for Friday. Good to see young lad Lewis Wray in there
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"19 man for Friday. Good to see young lad Lewis Wray in there
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What position does Wray play? I can't remember.
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| Quote ="PopTart"What position does Wray play? I can't remember.'"
Plays in the second row.
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| As mentioned earlier that 1st play kick could have come off and I've no prob with them trying it. What I do have a problem with is then not being capable of defending our line for 6 tackles keeping Cas out.
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| Fairly strong squad named by Warrington?
Akauola
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Clark
Cooper
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Luis Johnson
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BMM
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"Fairly strong squad named by Warrington?
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Cooper
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Hill
Hughes
Luis Johnson
G King
T King
Livett
BMM
Patton
Philbin
Ratchford
Smith
Thompson
Westwood'"
Considering they have a huge semi final game next week, I was expecting 4/5 of those to be rested.
Usually, you would say hit them with everything we have in the first 20 mins and see if they are really up for it but, we look so small/light in the front row, I'm not sure that this would achieve anything.
I'd be tempted to have Pauli on at the start just to test them but, I'm struggling to see past a Warrington win
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