absolute rubbish. He brought together a squad of players not wanted at other clubs in a really small time frame and got them into the top 8 against all the odds. This year hasn't been spectacular but with the lowest budget in SL we still finished 1 point off 9th place. He's generally good at recruiting so I'm quite excited to see how the squad shapes up.

I don't think Agars the man for a relegation dogfight either.
But I'm happy for him to see what players he can turn up?
JK might need more than 6 games this time?

I'm pro-Agar, the games under him have been far more entertaining than under JK. We have lost the close games because of player error, if we made less errors we would have won more games and possibly made the eight. I bet you would have thought he was great then!

me and my dad bought season tickets before all this came out ,and we are not looking forward to 2014 at all,its all bad news ,never anything to look forward to,has somebody put a curse on this club.

you best get used to it, its obvious you have been struck by the curse now...there is no cure and you will have highs and lows but its addictive and with you for life .Embrace it warts & all

suppose a case in point is Ben Cockayne, tossed aside and then at Fev , gets a new lease of life with us and now earned us £30k, not a bad return

Doubt that we had the lowest budget. Furthermore if these were players that nobody wanted we seem to have paid them a hell of a lot of money.

Really?? Which club(s) do you think might have had a lower budget than us?

My guess would be the mighty London broncos, but I am happy to be corrected, I did say that I doubted rather than I was certain, however, I am happy to be challenged about this. Could you bring the certainty to this subject that I so desperately seek?

Hard to believe but London spent the full cap. Salford and Bradford were probably lower with Hull KR, Widnes and Cas at a similar level.

did you see the squad that London started the season with?

London were rumoured to be spending close to the full cap, especially in view of the higher salaries that are necessary down there (cost of living and all that)
Salford may well have been paying a lower cap at the start of the season but, I would think that we weren't far behind.
The mid season signings still remain a mystery.
WHY, if we were losing money, did we sign 2 new players (Tautai and Molloy).
Regardless of their respective ability and cost, why would a club do this ????

Also why hand out contract extensions which we clearly could not afford to honour unless we were running with a squad of 13

They actually spent over the cap as they get a 15% dispensation for being in "dat dare Lundun" to allow them to spend above the cap so that wages are effectively equal with those "oop norf" due to the cost of living

Its the contract extensions that may well get us out of this mess.
The contract extension for Danny Kirmond will be a god send if he does have to go, otherwise it would be a 50k job like Amor.
From what i can see/guess the transfer fees seem to be somewhere around the value of the remainder of the said players contract.
Out of contract or in some cases 1 year to run and they are worth zip to us

You know what, looking at it like that it looks obvious. Good spot

I suppose it depends on the salary of the player under contract as to whether it is a "good deal" - ie the contract of Mellars may be considered to be a liability rather than have value.

quite, i dont think anyone believes we'd get 100k for Vince

We wouldn't get 10k never mind 100k for Mellars.

I think he's great and would be a valuable asset to anyone who wanted to take him.......

I think you forgot to add

....Honest, guv'nor

I believe that Molloy is playing for peanuts.

HOW MUCH, Jesus

Even if he's getting 10k per annum, it's 10k that we didn't have and shouldn't have spent.
Although it's with the benefit of hindsight, it's just plain daft (unless it was part of some master plan as we knew that every other senior player would be sold ?)

A vanishingly small amount; I reckon it was a deal with Agar where he would play & train himself fit, in the hope of winning a proper contract for next season.

He's not the cause of our financial woes, that's for sure.