The lad is still only 19, I know you're not putting the whole thing on him but he'll get better on the back of these mistakes.

Crowther a pass on 38 minutes to miller was a shocker,it’s got to in millers breadbasket but no ,also Brad Walker should just dived over game over ,too soft and nieve

Certainly not having ago at him individually i was making the point that it wasnt just 1 incident and 1 player that where our downfall

You see I respectfully disagree … Fifita ( our go to man ) getting binned caused the problem of the 2nd half . They were always going to come out all guns blazing just to take advantage of us being a man down . They got rolling and we were hanging on .. causing the errors imo . Toulouse have some great fast players … we just needed a full team to stem the onslaught for the first 10 mins or so ! It was just so unnecessary and stupid

Our problem was the usual one, we cannot handle adversity at all well. We fell apart as soon as we were put under a bit of stress and that for me comes down purely to the mentality of a majority of the players. The catalyst was Fifita, but the rest of them have to man up as well. They didn’t.

It must be me !!! It was all just so unnecessary .. 4/5 secs on the clock ! A game we had to win … a team struggling to find form … a team struggling to field a settled side !!! It cost us the game … he’d been enjoying the “ oh David Fifita “ chants not long before he did this … they must have still been whizzing round his head !!

I have said before we had half time to work out a plan to cover the 10 minutes Fifita was absent. It looked like we just didn’t bother or were incapable of changing.
We are now facing the final phase of the season having lost our points advantage over three games. The team below us have beaten us twice in recent games which makes every game a final. We cannot go into any believing that the performance is more important than the result, it wasn’t the case this Saturday and is definitely not for the remaining fixtures.

I think the point made about performance is that concentrating on performance gets you a win. Concentrating on the win makes you nervous and you try to win on every play.

It didn’t yesterday, nor the week before or the week before that but the points conceded are reducing so maybe by our last game we will have cracked it.

I think it exactly did happen. We are panicking and going away from game plan with silly plays rather than calmly continuing what worked well.
Yesterday is a perfect example.

But you don't need to argue with me. I was just explaining what Willie meant as you obviously misunderstood.

I don’t disagree that it was a brain fart of the highest order. But it doesn’t have to follow that we fall apart spectacularly like we did. The fact that happened is down to his 12 mates on the field.

What's all this talk about "Game Plan"? I don't think we have any variations in a game plan. We play the same boring, unadventurous rugby whether it's against Saints or Tolouse. How often do we put a player into space? Why do we always turn the ball back inside in the middle of the field to the point where we've just received the damn thing from. Why can't we create overlaps; the opposition always have us marked man for man? Why do we always give the opposition ten meters at the play the ball? Game plan?? We don't know the meaning of the words

Why are posters blaming Fifita he did something silly but the blame lies firmly at the feet of Robert Hicks because no way was that a yellow card. Penalty yes but yellow card never

Well this none game plan was working until Big Dave got sent off.
And Miller put Dave through a gap for his try.

Sorry, but I disagree....you could see Dave looking at the clock and he made the conscious decision to lie on...if he had made an effort after the "six-again" call then fair enough, but he continued to lie on and I knew then that he was going in the bin...right decision for me (unfortunately).

We're all entitled to our opinions because we view the problems of our great club differently BUT it is a fact PT that we seriously lack ideas in attack.
I've given Miller all the tolerance that I can over the years. I've constantly said he has all the attributes to be a top class SO but he's hit and miss and lacks consistency. He won't back himself and seldom makes a break. Come to think of it he's not on his own.
Our rugby style is not worthy of SL. coaching or quality of players? I don't know but the first thing I'd instill in my players is that a match lasts for 80 minutes not 40. I'd then tell them if you stand and wait at the PTB for an 18 stone forward to gain momentum and run at you, he's going to win not you!
I wish we had a Brad Drew or Danny Brough again because I'm more likely to make a break for the exit than our present 'playmakers' breaking through the opposition lines. I watched some dross in the1980's but this lot is coming close to that.

Spot on 1315...nail, head, hit



Has anyone heard any more on our 3rd predicted signing as I'm hoping it could be a sorely-needed play-maker

haha FIL done exactly that before now!

...didn't realise how relevant that was when I typed it, but I do now

There we’re a fair few reasons we lost that 2nd half

There’s too many to list but the main three are

We are clueless without Dave on the pitch

And we have for some reason developed no strike combos (I thought we had when batch moved to a centre with Tanginoa but sadly we canned that partnership)

I can only imagine houles absolutely tore a strip from his players at half time
They barely touched our right edge
As soon as they woke up and realised it was being defended by a young lad and a part time union player they destroyed us

He did it twice, his worst game for us and showed his inexperience. I'll forgive him but he was a costly player on Saturday.

First up, Fifita is probably our most important player.
Therefore, him getting binned hurt us massively, no question.

Should he be blamed for the headless chicken shambles that followed when he was off the field, no.
However, his sin binning certainly allowed Toulouse back into a game where we just about had control and a 20 - 4 lead ??

We probably could have got back on top and won, had Butler not also ben sent to the bin

It's a cruel game and Toulouse exploited their advantage (understatement).

I understand what you are saying but my point was in answer to us having a game plan. We clearly don't go out to 'throw it around'. The game plan was working in first half. What went wrong was nothing to do with that.

Our attack, as you say, is blunt more often than not but for me its execution.
When Lomax gets a ball from Roby, it's right in his chest at speed. Miller has to jump to get it or pick up at his feet. No wonder we can't get the ball to the wings. And that's right across the team.