So dave is getting all the blame for that shower today well yes he had a brain fart but other than that he was one of our better players and will be hurting more than most.as a team we shouldnt leak points and easy yards like we did in those 10 mins simply cos we where down to 12 men and its not like all the trys and yards gained where on the edges with space created by the extra man.also the buttler incident was for me worse and how many pens/back to 6 happened in that time.for me there players who are struggling and he isnt 1.add to this mistakes.we where only defending at the time of the sinbining because of shocking pass from dummy halfalso at 20.4 after first set hall had a simple ball to pick up but knocked on.for me while he was stupod but its not all on him

Got to Agree Big Dave as given is all to this club even on one leg The thing that peeved me of is think it was the first time we had been done for holding down all match

Is it true he's signed for Cas for next year already ?
Today was a HUGE game and we froze

Just about every play contributed to our down fall today giving six agains
Countless times. Miller trying to strip the ball instead of tackling

I did think Hall's error was a lot more expensive than most have commented. Drop on the ball and calm things down and wind the clock down with a steady set of six instead of going for a glory play.

Thats my point yes dave did have a brain fart but it wasnt just down to him

The lad is still only 19, I know you're not putting the whole thing on him but he'll get better on the back of these mistakes.

Crowther a pass on 38 minutes to miller was a shocker,it’s got to in millers breadbasket but no ,also Brad Walker should just dived over game over ,too soft and nieve

Certainly not having ago at him individually i was making the point that it wasnt just 1 incident and 1 player that where our downfall

You see I respectfully disagree … Fifita ( our go to man ) getting binned caused the problem of the 2nd half . They were always going to come out all guns blazing just to take advantage of us being a man down . They got rolling and we were hanging on .. causing the errors imo . Toulouse have some great fast players … we just needed a full team to stem the onslaught for the first 10 mins or so ! It was just so unnecessary and stupid

Our problem was the usual one, we cannot handle adversity at all well. We fell apart as soon as we were put under a bit of stress and that for me comes down purely to the mentality of a majority of the players. The catalyst was Fifita, but the rest of them have to man up as well. They didn’t.

It must be me !!! It was all just so unnecessary .. 4/5 secs on the clock ! A game we had to win … a team struggling to find form … a team struggling to field a settled side !!! It cost us the game … he’d been enjoying the “ oh David Fifita “ chants not long before he did this … they must have still been whizzing round his head !!

I have said before we had half time to work out a plan to cover the 10 minutes Fifita was absent. It looked like we just didn’t bother or were incapable of changing.
We are now facing the final phase of the season having lost our points advantage over three games. The team below us have beaten us twice in recent games which makes every game a final. We cannot go into any believing that the performance is more important than the result, it wasn’t the case this Saturday and is definitely not for the remaining fixtures.

I think the point made about performance is that concentrating on performance gets you a win. Concentrating on the win makes you nervous and you try to win on every play.

It didn’t yesterday, nor the week before or the week before that but the points conceded are reducing so maybe by our last game we will have cracked it.

I think it exactly did happen. We are panicking and going away from game plan with silly plays rather than calmly continuing what worked well.
Yesterday is a perfect example.

But you don't need to argue with me. I was just explaining what Willie meant as you obviously misunderstood.

I don’t disagree that it was a brain fart of the highest order. But it doesn’t have to follow that we fall apart spectacularly like we did. The fact that happened is down to his 12 mates on the field.

What's all this talk about "Game Plan"? I don't think we have any variations in a game plan. We play the same boring, unadventurous rugby whether it's against Saints or Tolouse. How often do we put a player into space? Why do we always turn the ball back inside in the middle of the field to the point where we've just received the damn thing from. Why can't we create overlaps; the opposition always have us marked man for man? Why do we always give the opposition ten meters at the play the ball? Game plan?? We don't know the meaning of the words

Why are posters blaming Fifita he did something silly but the blame lies firmly at the feet of Robert Hicks because no way was that a yellow card. Penalty yes but yellow card never

Well this none game plan was working until Big Dave got sent off.
And Miller put Dave through a gap for his try.

Sorry, but I disagree....you could see Dave looking at the clock and he made the conscious decision to lie on...if he had made an effort after the "six-again" call then fair enough, but he continued to lie on and I knew then that he was going in the bin...right decision for me (unfortunately).

We're all entitled to our opinions because we view the problems of our great club differently BUT it is a fact PT that we seriously lack ideas in attack.
I've given Miller all the tolerance that I can over the years. I've constantly said he has all the attributes to be a top class SO but he's hit and miss and lacks consistency. He won't back himself and seldom makes a break. Come to think of it he's not on his own.
Our rugby style is not worthy of SL. coaching or quality of players? I don't know but the first thing I'd instill in my players is that a match lasts for 80 minutes not 40. I'd then tell them if you stand and wait at the PTB for an 18 stone forward to gain momentum and run at you, he's going to win not you!
I wish we had a Brad Drew or Danny Brough again because I'm more likely to make a break for the exit than our present 'playmakers' breaking through the opposition lines. I watched some dross in the1980's but this lot is coming close to that.

Spot on 1315...nail, head, hit



Has anyone heard any more on our 3rd predicted signing as I'm hoping it could be a sorely-needed play-maker

haha FIL done exactly that before now!