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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"In other words, whatever you've claimed, prove it.'"
That's how I read it also. Which is quite interesting.
The claims must be substantial enough to be taken seriously, although if the Bulls had proof, I would have thought they would have taken it to the hearing.
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| Ridiculous.
Have they not had sufficient time already to prepare their 'evidence'?
Should have been thrown out.
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| Totally agree, if they didn't have enough "supportive evidence" to overthrow the points deduction, then the result should be no points returned!
Sounds like the panel are trying to do as much as they can to give the points back.
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| Change the record!
The panel is independent. If they come back and say we can't have any points back then this is the decision. If they come back and agree the circumstances were a little 'dodgy', then you should ask what was dodgy, and why certain parties acted in a certain way. This is not a Bradford V Wakey fight - It's a Bulls v RFL fight.
Do you really think the RFL want to be proved to be the wrong party? They will not want any points handing back to Bradford as this will open the next can of worms as to 'what really happened'.
Trust me, the world is not against Wakefield.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Change the record!
The panel is independent. If they come back and say we can't have any points back then this is the decision. If they come back and agree the circumstances were a little 'dodgy', then you should ask what was dodgy, and why certain parties acted in a certain way.=#FF0000 This is not a Bradford V Wakey fight - It's a Bulls v RFL fight.
Do you really think the RFL want to be proved to be the wrong party? They will not want any points handing back to Bradford as this will open the next can of worms as to 'what really happened'.
Trust me, the world is not against Wakefield.'" at the possible cost of our club get real
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| Would have thought they would have taken every piece of evidence with them.
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| Quote ="snowie"at the possible cost of our club get real'"
the point is - If there is a decision where points are returned, then the RFL have some serious questions to answer. The RFL are certainly not on Bradfords side with this.
I know there is a lot at stake this year, but you shouldn't be relying on a points deduction to save your team from relegation.
For what its worth, I can't believe that you guys haven't already taken action against the RFL for their apparent 'empty promise' of instant relegation.
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| I think the panel are doing a thorough job so that whatever the result neither party can complain. Essentially if Bradford didn't take some evidence deemed important to me that suggests either they don't have it, or the individuals representing them aren't very professional.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"the point is - If there is a decision where points are returned, then the RFL have some serious questions to answer. The RFL are certainly not on Bradfords side with this.
I know there is a lot at stake this year, but you shouldn't be relying on a points deduction to save your team from relegation.
For what its worth, I can't believe that you guys haven't already taken action against the RFL for their apparent 'empty promise' of instant relegation.'"
Just want ALL clubs to be treated equally.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Just want ALL clubs to be treated equally.'"
Amen to that. Add a little transparency to the current situation and I'd be a happy man
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Amen to that. Add a little transparency to the current situation and I'd be a happy man'"
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| Quote ="JINJER"If I remember correctly isn't it Mark Green I think he's called, the new Bradford owner who'se paying for it?
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I have had a quick check and it seems the former administrator David Wilson,lodged the appeal before Moore walked away from the club.
When Green took over he continued with the appeal
No mention of who is funding it.
I wonder if it lasts as long as the administration process(es)
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| Maybe, just maybe, if Bradford had not gone into admin.
Got shut of the players they already have done.
They would have roughly the same squad and 8 points!
Job done!
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| Quote ="daveyz999"the point is - If there is a decision where points are returned, then the RFL have some serious questions to answer. The RFL are certainly not on Bradfords side with this.
I know there is a lot at stake this year, but you shouldn't be relying on a points deduction to save your team from relegation.
For what its worth, I can't believe that you guys haven't already taken action against the RFL for their apparent 'empty promise' of instant relegation.'"
I'm not but would to still have the same players here before we had to let them go, tough call go into admin and get demoted and keep our players or stay up and sell them
oh and don't forget the rent for the rfl
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| If they get any points back it will be a travesty.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"
Trust me, the world is not against Wakefield.'"
You won't get much support on this forum with statements like that!
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You won't get much support on this forum with statements like that!'"
Go discuss it on your own forum then....
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I think the panel are doing a thorough job so that whatever the result neither party can complain. Essentially if Bradford didn't take some evidence deemed important to me that suggests either they don't have it, or the individuals representing them aren't very professional.'"
That's my thoughts too. I seriously doubt anyone would not bring sufficient evidence with them if they had it. It looks to me like the panel are giving them a fair hearing so there can be no doubt what so ever at the final decision. If they really are independent, their own credibility will be at stake and the last thing they will want is to be subject to more conspiracy theories. If Bradford have more evidence, then fair play to them, but if they don't could they withdraw their appeal to save face?
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| Re the claim that the RFL told MC that if WTW went into admin, they'd be instantly relegated; he's never actually provided any evidence of that has he?
If it's written down anywhere, I'd be very surprised, so even it was relayed to him verbally, the RFL would issue a straight denial and say that he must have misinterpreted what was said etc etc.
I think that particular argument is a bum steer; either because it never happened, or because there is no proof that it ever happened.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Re the claim that the RFL told MC that if WTW went into admin, they'd be instantly relegated; he's never actually provided any evidence of that has he?
If it's written down anywhere, I'd be very surprised, so even it was relayed to him verbally, the RFL would issue a straight denial and say that he must have misinterpreted what was said etc etc.
I think that particular argument is a bum steer; either because it never happened, or because there is no proof that it ever happened.'"
It doesn't add up as to ever being on the record. What process would the RFL have been following? In fact did Carter ever even say it?!
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| Yes Carter said it a few times in public including in an interview broadcast on Boots n All a few weeks ago. The RFL never challenged this in public which makes me see it as fact. Compare that to the public spat in public a few months ago between the Bulls and the RFL when they challenged each other's allegations.
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| Quote ="wildshot"The RFL never challenged this in public which makes me see it as fact.'"
With respect, that's not a very sound basis on which to establish fact; they don't challenge lost of things that are said about them, but that doesn't automatically make them factually correct.
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| Quote ="bren2k"With respect, that's not a very sound basis on which to establish fact; they don't challenge lost of things that are said about them, but that doesn't automatically make them factually correct.'"
True, that is why I explained that is what makes ME see it as a fact. It is a bold claim by Carter and maybe more serious than any claim Bradford made? I was explaining how I see things.
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