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| Just a question re new community stadium ,Can a football team use the stadium in the winter months do trinity have the final say
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| Quote ="JINJER"I'd suggest even a blind man man could see where I was going with that one.
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Well he'd had a meal so you can't accuse him of talking gibberish on an empty stomach, where has he talked any gibba gabba anyway
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Just a question re new community stadium ,Can a football team use the stadium in the winter months do trinity have the final say'"
I'd imagine they'd be more than happy to have a football club playing from the stadium. Wakefield could do with a footy club, even if it's in the bottom leagues
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well he'd had a meal so you can't accuse him of talking gibberish on an empty stomach, where has he talked any gibba gabba anyway
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I take you back to 8.05pm onwards on the 23rd September your honour.
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| Stood in the North Stand on Saturday thinking how good the atmosphere will be in the new stadium.
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| Yes, I was thinking the same too M62.
Heard on the car radio this morning on the way into work, on Ridings, that there is more information to follow on the stadium details shortly.
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| just had a look on the 88m group website.
It appears that a few more images of the plans have now appeared as a slideshow
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"just had a look on the 88m group website.
It appears that a few more images of the plans have now appeared as a slideshow'"
Can't be denied, if it comes off it will be stonking!
Small but perfectly formed as they say.
That's what makes it all so frustrating, until they start building I just can't believe it. Maybe 12 years actively chasing the dream has got the better of me.
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| Its very easy to have that slight doubt in the back of your mind vastman. I just think its the nearest we have come and I don't want to think that anything can go wrong .
I'm over the moon its remaining at B V , I was never a fan of Newmarket.
The other good thing must be it gives the club 2 seasons to make the best of it and make solid plans for more supporters to attend .
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Heard on the car radio this morning on the way into work, on Ridings, that there is more information to follow on the stadium details shortly.'"
Hopefully it's to pacify those with the non car parking issues.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"just had a look on the 88m group website.
It appears that a few more images of the plans have now appeared as a slideshow'"
Small number of seats makes sense now. Effectively the East stand is pretty much hospitality. Looks great all the same.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"just had a look on the 88m group website.
It appears that a few more images of the plans have now appeared as a slideshow'"
Have you got a link, I've looked on 88M website and I can't see anything. Cheers
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| Quote ="chissitt"Hopefully it's to pacify those with the non car parking issues.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"icon_rolleyes.gif'"
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www.88m.co.uk/
Watch where there is the news feed £12m regeneration scheme announced, and then if you stay on it, there are several images in a slide show
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Watch where there is the news feed £12m regeneration scheme announced, and then if you stay on it, there are several images in a slide show
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| New pictures look good, well designed small stadium everything seems to have worked out well for us in the end. ps I parked fine on Saturday.
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| So did we
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| I personally would prefer Newmarket, but if we get a new stadium then who am I to bleat. I just think that we have about 2000 to 2500 Wakefield fans who attend home games, this season we have won 16 games and played a great style of Rugby and still the Wakefield public cant be bothered to attend. The fact that BV is a dump may have something to do with it, but is it putting off say 1500 `fans` from attending, I think not. Agbrigg is a hole and that may prevent some home fans from attending, nobody likes to leave their cars in Agbrigg. There a very very few fans in Agbrigg, the local population has no interest in the club or RL so we do not get the benefit of walk ups. The biggest problem is that its a pain for away fans, a stadium next to the M62 would have been ideal and you could see the attendances increasing as a result. I do not believe in the term stay away fans that I often hear quoted, they do not exist. Apparently these supposed stay away fans were just waiting for a winning team and then they would come flooding back, they didn`t in 1979 / 80 they didn`t in the Topliss coaching era, they didn`t when Andy Kelly took us into the SL and that season we won most of our games. They haven`t this season which has been fantastic. They are a myth. What there is in Wakefield is a large number of people who will come if its free or ridiculously cheap, the Golver era went down this route and in reality about 1000 + people got in for free, as soon as this was stopped they didn`t attend. We need to somehow find new fans who are going to pay fair market value, I think that the new stadium, where ever it is, needs to have serious corporate facilities as it seems to me that the Benidorm flats are always full and the spend per head in their is massive compared to the fan in the stand or on the terraces.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I personally would prefer Newmarket, but if we get a new stadium then who am I to bleat. I just think that we have about 2000 to 2500 Wakefield fans who attend home games, this season we have won 16 games and played a great style of Rugby and still the Wakefield public cant be bothered to attend. The fact that BV is a dump may have something to do with it, but is it putting off say 1500 `fans` from attending, I think not. Agbrigg is a hole and that may prevent some home fans from attending, nobody likes to leave their cars in Agbrigg. There a very very few fans in Agbrigg, the local population has no interest in the club or RL so we do not get the benefit of walk ups. The biggest problem is that its a pain for away fans, a stadium next to the M62 would have been ideal and you could see the attendances increasing as a result. I do not believe in the term stay away fans that I often hear quoted, they do not exist. Apparently these supposed stay away fans were just waiting for a winning team and then they would come flooding back, they didn`t in 1979 / 80 they didn`t in the Topliss coaching era, they didn`t when Andy Kelly took us into the SL and that season we won most of our games. They haven`t this season which has been fantastic. They are a myth. What there is in Wakefield is a large number of people who will come if its free or ridiculously cheap, the Golver era went down this route and in reality about 1000 + people got in for free, as soon as this was stopped they didn`t attend. We need to somehow find new fans who are going to pay fair market value, I think that the new stadium, where ever it is, needs to have serious corporate facilities as it seems to me that the Benidorm flats are always full and the spend per head in their is massive compared to the fan in the stand or on the terraces.'"
I'd say we have about 4000 4500 hardcore support base at the moment.
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| Most of the above is just an opinion and speculation, one thing for sure he's got the 2000, to 2500 home fans wrong, more like a guaranteed 4000 even on a bad day.
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| I'd say that's an overly pessimistic assessment; there is no doubt in my mind that a redeveloped stadium, with proper facilities that mean taking kids is easier, will attract more people in and of itself. Add to that some serious marketing and promotion by the club, and I can see no reason we can't add to our attendance quite significantly - especially if the next couple of seasons are as entertaining and successful as this one.
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| I think our average gate last year was around 5000, give or take 100 either side.
With a new stadium, improved results, and a marketing push, I can't see any reason why that figure shouldn't increase up to 6000+, as a minimum
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| I'd sooner take my kid to a ground like Leigh or Salford than Belle Vue in it's current state. He comes to some games with me, but it's far from ideal for a young kid, with poor views of the game from pretty much everywhere!
A redeveloped Belle Vue will allow me to make the game more of a family occasion, where my partner will come along too. I don't really care where it is, hopefully the club (and council to a lesser extent) will be able to market a new ground much better than the current one for both corporate and for spectators
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'd say that's an overly pessimistic assessment; there is no doubt in my mind that a redeveloped stadium, with proper facilities that mean taking kids is easier, will attract more people in and of itself. Add to that some serious marketing and promotion by the club, and I can see no reason we can't add to our attendance quite significantly - especially if the next couple of seasons are as entertaining and successful as this one.'"
Agree.
All you have to do is look at Cas, under Millward when they strugged they were averaging just over 6k. Soon as Powell started to gradually make them a better side, fan numbers went up to 7.5k & now this year they're at 8.5k. We've got far more potential fans because of the larger population that consider themselves from/living in Wakefield and it's up to us to attract them.
A new stadium with a new development attatched would do wonders in all sorts of ways, from fans being more likely to turn up, both home and away, to a better corporate side of things and sponsorship etc.
I'd say atm we've got around 4k hardcore fans. We've averaged 500 more than last year, so hopefully even more new fans will come after a much better season than last.
But as we've seen before, it's gonna take a few years of playing good rugby, at the right end of the table to make decent amounts of people want to come and watch us, instead of doing something else.
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