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| Apparently a solution must be delivered by Wednesday this week, what that entails is anyone's guess,does it mean for 2018 season or the long term future?
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| The silence from the club and trust has been deafening over the past couple of months, perhaps thatsthat's because there's nothing to report, or perhaps it's because there is something to report but they've embargoed it until a certain release date, I guess we'll be finding out soon enough
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| Quote ="KevW60349"Apparently a solution must be delivered by Wednesday this week, what that entails is anyone's guess,does it mean for 2018 season or the long term future?'"
Whose saying a solution must be found though, the RFL or the club? If they've only just been told how can they possibly sort something by Wednesday.
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"The silence from the club and trust has been deafening over the past couple of months, perhaps thatsthat's because there's nothing to report, or perhaps it's because there is something to report but they've embargoed it until a certain release date'"
"Perhaps there's nothing to report or there's something to report" good call Poirot, either way you're spot on there EB.
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"The silence from the club and trust has been deafening over the past couple of months, perhaps thatsthat's because there's nothing to report, or perhaps it's because there is something to report but they've embargoed it until a certain release date'"
I'd tend to run with the latter. Whether it's what we want I don't know.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'd tend to run with the latter. Whether it's what we want I don't know.'"
Something to do with season ticket sales by 20th Sept. are we going to continue at Belle Vue or move to Dewsbury. Has to be thrashed out with all parties including Council.
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| Report in the Sun that the announcement will be tomorrow whether we continue at Belle Vue or move to another club, probably Dewsbury.
I'm happy to say that I'll support the club in whatever decision is made and will continue to attend games so long as is feasible (moving to Coventry etc would make it unfeasible)
I do wonder if it would be possible to do a joint season ticket between the two clubs if we were to move. Add an extra £80-100 perhaps on to the Trinity ST price which goes directly to the other club. I wouldn't necessarily consider following another club, but if the games were built into my season ticket (a Tetley's stadium season ticket) then I'd go and watch some games. It would be a win-win for both clubs if they sold some stadium season tickets
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| Wakefield council twitter "Cllr Box says an announcement on Wakefield Community Stadium plans expected tomorrow"
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Report in the Sun that the announcement will be tomorrow whether we continue at Belle Vue or move to another club, probably Dewsbury.
I'm happy to say that I'll support the club in whatever decision is made and will continue to attend games so long as is feasible (moving to Coventry etc would make it unfeasible)
I do wonder if it would be possible to do a joint season ticket between the two clubs if we were to move. Add an extra £80-100 perhaps on to the Trinity ST price which goes directly to the other club. I wouldn't necessarily consider following another club, but if the games were built into my season ticket (a Tetley's stadium season ticket) then I'd go and watch some games. It would be a win-win for both clubs if they sold some stadium season tickets'"
I thought this was an interesting line.
"One of the issues are the terms of the match day revenue if they stay". Taken from The Sun Twitter page. I didn't realise that there were outside sources involved in match day revenue.
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"Wakefield council twitter "Cllr Box says an announcement on Wakefield Community Stadium plans expected tomorrow"
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I'll believe it when I'm sitting in my own seat in the Neil Fox stand of the Sir Rodney Walker Megadome
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"I'll believe it when I'm sitting in my own seat in the Neil Fox stand of the Sir Rodney Walker Megadome
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| Quote ="JINJER"I thought this was an interesting line.
"One of the issues are the [uterms of the match day revenue if they stay[/u". Taken from The Sun Twitter page. I didn't realise that there were outside sources involved in match day revenue.'"
Purely hypothetical of course but this could be a negative. Maybe the new terms of extending rental of Belle Vue is that the ground owners get a share of matchday refreshment sales? This would be very bad for Carter and could be the council , the BV owner and the SL deadline forcing Carter into a less favourable decision. I feel the more deadline looms, the less cards we have to play.
As for Dewsbury, I appreciate that Carter has often quoted it as an option. Having been there myself I feel it is too small a ground for SL and will reduce the club's revenue significantly. I fear it could be the start of a downward spiral for income. But then again I appreciate I am only making assumptions. My opinion is as valid as the next one's and we need to trust Carter will make the right decision for the club.
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| Quote ="wildshot"Purely hypothetical of course but this could be a negative. Maybe the new terms of extending rental of Belle Vue is that the ground owners get a share of matchday refreshment sales? This would be very bad for Carter and could be the council , the BV owner and the SL deadline forcing Carter into a less favourable decision. I feel the more deadline looms, the less cards we have to play.
As for Dewsbury, I appreciate that Carter has often quoted it as an option. Having been there myself I feel it is too small a ground for SL and will reduce the club's revenue significantly. I fear it could be the start of a downward spiral for income. But then again I appreciate I am only making assumptions. My opinion is as valid as the next one's and we need to trust Carter will make the right decision for the club.'"
That's exactly what I was alluding to, does Manni want a bit of our match day income? If that's the case isn't that blackmail? Give us more income or we'll refuse to offer you the chance to play at BV?
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| "Hi Manni. I'm Peter. Have I introduced you to the Planning Committee? Yes, those ones over there in the Trinity tops. About your plans for any future developments ...."
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt""Hi Manni. I'm Peter. Have I introduced you to the Planning Committee? Yes, those ones over there in the Trinity tops. About your plans for any future developments ...."
I can hope.'"
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| Taken from the WMDC Twitter page.
Cllr box says an announcement on Wakefield Community Stadium plans expected tomorrow.
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| Quote ="wildshot"As for Dewsbury, I appreciate that Carter has often quoted it as an option. Having been there myself I feel it is too small a ground for SL and will reduce the club's revenue significantly. I fear it could be the start of a downward spiral for income. But then again I appreciate I am only making assumptions. My opinion is as valid as the next one's and we need to trust Carter will make the right decision for the club.'"
TBH I've never seen a quote direct from MC that states dewsbury as an option, I'm sure it's just the fans and other parties that have stated this, I don't believe that dewsbury meets SL minimum standards and would require investment to make it so, also the pitch is small and definitely doesn't suit our current style of playing, even if we did thrash dewsbury in the CC I really don't think it is an option, although I agree there are some aspects of their facilities we can make use of such as the training pitch
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| Quote ="wildshot"Purely hypothetical of course but this could be a negative. Maybe the new terms of extending rental of Belle Vue is that the ground owners get a share of matchday refreshment sales? This would be very bad for Carter and could be the council , the BV owner and the SL deadline forcing Carter into a less favourable decision. I feel the more deadline looms, the less cards we have to play.
As for Dewsbury, I appreciate that Carter has often quoted it as an option. Having been there myself I feel it is too small a ground for SL and will reduce the club's revenue significantly. I fear it could be the start of a downward spiral for income. But then again I appreciate I am only making assumptions. My opinion is as valid as the next one's and we need to trust Carter will make the right decision for the club.'"
Agree with all of this. Thank god we have a chairman at the helm with the clubs interests at heart and he has my support whatever decision he makes
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"Wakefield council twitter "Cllr Box says an announcement on Wakefield Community Stadium plans expected tomorrow"
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Yet Cllr Box has not even had the common courtesy or decency of speaking/emailing/contacting the Chairman of the Wakefield and District Community Trust, they Trust they set-up, the Trust charged with the delivery and running of a new community stadium for the citizens of Wakefield, to discuss 'their' plans or this announcement!
Ask yourselves why not?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yet Cllr Box has not even had the common courtesy or decency of speaking/emailing/contacting the Chairman of the Wakefield and District Community Trust, they Trust they set-up, the Trust charged with the delivery and running of a new community stadium for the citizens of Wakefield, to discuss 'their' plans or this announcement!
Ask yourselves why not?'"
Does the answer begin with Rodney?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yet Cllr Box has not even had the common courtesy or decency of speaking/emailing/contacting the Chairman of the Wakefield and District Community Trust, they Trust they set-up, the Trust charged with the delivery and running of a new community stadium for the citizens of Wakefield, to discuss 'their' plans or this announcement!
Ask yourselves why not?'"
Has it been considered that because the trusts or multiple trusts angle of all this has become more than a little bit toxic in recent times in amongst everything else it's best that it's put to one side for the time being to see if a solution can be achieved without digging all that back up again? If those invited to the meeting are the WMDC, 88M and Michael Carter, is that not enough to get the job done?
Historically the biggest obstacles to overcome to delivery of this community stadium are:
WMDC - they're present in the meetings and reading their tweet, claim to have a way forward.
Developer - No Yorkcourt representation and the emergence of 88M as an attendee suggest that dial may have been shifted slightly and may allude to no further need for Yorkcourt or Rodney Walker (who appear to come as one).
The club - it's assumed Michael Carter is at the meetings and is both speaking on behalf of the club and the trust. Is that not a good thing? Surely if a resolution to funding, land, and a developer can be agreed between those 3 parties alone, would the very fact that one of those parties in agreement is also a member of the trust mean by default your trust would ultimately take ownership of the stadium? And if there is no new stadium and the meetings are about Belle Vue, again why would the trust need to be present?
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt""Hi Manni. I'm Peter. Have I introduced you to the Planning Committee? Yes, those ones over there in the Trinity tops. About your plans for any future developments ...."
I can hope.'"
I'm afraid the only hope you have is either Bob Hope or no hope.
Don't think anyone on the Council has a Trinity top except for Maureen Cummings.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yet Cllr Box has not even had the common courtesy or decency of speaking/emailing/contacting the Chairman of the Wakefield and District Community Trust, they Trust they set-up, the Trust charged with the delivery and running of a new community stadium for the citizens of Wakefield, to discuss 'their' plans or this announcement!
Ask yourselves why not?'"
If Michael is going is it really that important?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yet Cllr Box has not even had the common courtesy or decency of speaking/emailing/contacting the Chairman of the Wakefield and District Community Trust, they Trust they set-up, the Trust charged with the delivery and running of a new community stadium for the citizens of Wakefield, to discuss 'their' plans or this announcement!
Ask yourselves why not?'"
Because the aforementioned is self-serving, altruistic, egotistical and always wants to be bathed in glory. However the fact that he would gladly leave WT up the creek without a paddle without so much as a backward glance does not inspire me with much confidence in 'their' plan.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yet Cllr Box has not even had the common courtesy or decency of speaking/emailing/contacting the Chairman of the Wakefield and District Community Trust, they Trust they set-up, the Trust charged with the delivery and running of a new community stadium for the citizens of Wakefield, to discuss 'their' plans or this announcement!
Ask yourselves why not?'"
I'm trying not to IA, every time I see Box being quoted I cant help feeling something wrong is happening.
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