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| Perhaps the FA cup semi finals and the London Marathon had something to do with this fixture taking place on Friday night.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Perhaps the FA cup semi finals and the London Marathon had something to do with this fixture taking place on Friday night.'"
That sir is an excellent point and makes a lot of sense.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Congratulations on a good post, the criticism you have received from your fellow fans here is pathetic.'"
The only thing pathetic is your post.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Easier just to shout crap about others than try sort out the problems we have.'"
You're clearly not daft, but your insistence on repeatedly setting up this straw man argument makes you look increasingly so.
For the last time - deriding the RFL's expansion failures and wanting WTW to increase their attendance are not mutually exclusive of each other; to argue against doing one in favour of doing the other makes no sense.
Are you Nigel Wood?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"But then after every Quins/Crusaders game, and even before this one, we get the same thread time and time again. Why not thread after thread slagging off Salford after every game, not just this one, or because they are 'heartland' don't they count or something?
A few questions for you all:
Do you think that we are battling against Crusaders or Quins for a licence, or Castleford and Halifax?
Do you honestly believe that Eddie and Stevo pick the clubs to be in Super League?
Do you believe that those who do would take any notice of what Eddie and Stevo say?
Who are the favourites to lose their licence this year, and were last year?
Yes, the future looks brighter at the moment, but Glover coming in and tarting up Belle Vue a bit does not cover over a decade or more where the club was run worse than a corner shop, let the ground decline (and had to rely on Leeds reserves to upgrade the dug-outs at one point,) not exploit media potential in the area by a succession of people unable to do the role, and that can be said of many other roles given to 'friends and family' over the years too.
Easier just to shout crap about others than try sort out the problems we have.'"
I just don't understand your constant need to come over all morally superior, every time someone criticizes any team or the expansion process. Just because I or any fan support Trinity, doesn't mean we can't voice our opinion on aspects of RL, whether you like the subject or not . At the end of the day that's what this forum is for, discussing all aspects of RL and we don't have to 'get our own house in order' to have a opinion.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"But then after every Quins/Crusaders game, and even before this one, we get the same thread time and time again. Why not thread after thread slagging off Salford after every game, not just this one, or because they are 'heartland' don't they count or something?
A few questions for you all:
[uDo you think that we are battling against Crusaders or Quins for a licence, or Castleford and Halifax?[/uDo you honestly believe that Eddie and Stevo pick the clubs to be in Super League?
Do you believe that those who do would take any notice of what Eddie and Stevo say?
Who are the favourites to lose their licence this year, and were last year?
Yes, the future looks brighter at the moment, but Glover coming in and tarting up Belle Vue a bit does not cover over a decade or more where the club was run worse than a corner shop, let the ground decline (and had to rely on Leeds reserves to upgrade the dug-outs at one point,) not exploit media potential in the area by a succession of people unable to do the role, and that can be said of many other roles given to 'friends and family' over the years too.
Easier just to shout crap about others than try sort out the problems we have.'"
I don't, i think we are battling against the RFL for a SL franchise.
I also believe we will not get one (at this present time) and that ours will not be the weakest application IF they follow the critera laid down.
I also believe that being a development side and having a new stadium is the be all and end all of the RFL and the critera is little more than a fairy tale.
No doubt i'll be shot down but thats my view.
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Quote ="BIGAL1"I also believe that being a development side and having a new stadium is the be all and end all of the RFL and the critera is little more than a fairy tale.'"
Agree 100%. Interesting comments on the 2009-2011 licences from RU commentator Brian Moore in this link.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80 ... e_licences
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Quote ="BIGAL1"I also believe that being a development side and having a new stadium is the be all and end all of the RFL and the critera is little more than a fairy tale.'"
Agree 100%. Interesting comments on the 2009-2011 licences from RU commentator Brian Moore in this link.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80 ... e_licences
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"And if they'd done nothing and got 1,000 in we'd have a thread criticising them for that as well! Why we can't just ignore them and get on with getting our average up to 6-8,000 I'll never know. Threads like this are divisive and should be banned as they add nothing to the debate and all end up the same.'"
Careful, they'll be asking if you actually are a fan or "pretending" to be one next......
It's shame really, cos I think its a worthwhile topic for discussion, but nobody seems to wants to do that - it's much easier to tell you to do one and accuse you of being a doom and gloom merchant and negative (or the the moral majority!) rather than offering an argument of their own back in return.
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The ray French comment is so funny and out of touch
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| Quote ="djcool"The ray French comment is so funny and out of touch'"
A bit like Ray French then
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"A bit like Ray French then'"
Lovely bloke that is he is but yes, you are correct!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"icon_lol.gif
Lovely bloke that is he is but yes, you are correct!'"
I always liked the way he ignored completely what was happening on the field and concentrated on telling us the players weights and what amature side they played for!
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| Big Al wrote:
[i:1zgp31he[iI don't, i think we are battling against the RFL for a SL franchise.
I also believe we will not get one (at this present time) and that ours will not be the weakest application IF they follow the critera laid down.
I also believe that being a development side and having a new stadium is the be all and end all of the RFL and the critera is little more than a fairy tale.
No doubt i'll be shot down but thats my view.[/i
Don't know about shot down...90% of the RL world would agree with you. The whole licence process is a farce. As any decision is totally at the RL's discretion and cannot be challenged, the decision as to who is in and who is out will depend upon the RFL's and Sky's whims and fantasies.
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| Quote ="Brian Moore""The criteria upon which it is said the awards were made were multifarious, allowing, depending on your point of view, detailed scrutiny of every aspect of each applicant's case; or to allow the Rugby Football League to justify any award it wanted to make. The decision to grant a licence to the Celtic Crusaders of Wales in front of Widnes and Halifax has caused justifiable ill-feeling...this was an expansion decision, pure and simple; pretending otherwise is insulting to those who missed out and wasted time and money chasing a franchise they were never going to get."'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"Nail, head etc.
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and he's a lawyer (as far as i can remember) so it just goes to show what thin ice the RFL is on.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"The only thing pathetic is your post.'"
Headhunter only defends the poster as he supports a team in the same boat as quins which is very pathetic if you ask me.
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| Quote ="supercat"Headhunter only defends the poster as he supports a team in the same boat as quins which is very pathetic if you ask me.'"
What boats that, the Marie Celeste???
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| Think it's the one that sailed from Southampton that ended up at the bottom of the ocean and should be left there to be honest.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"and he's a lawyer (as far as i can remember) so it just goes to show what thin ice the RFL is on.'"
At the risk of being accused of being negative, in what way are they on thin ice?
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| The franchise system is IMO 100% bent, i think if challenged it would not stand up in a court of law, neither would the clause barring clubs from legally pursuing the RFL (should it exist).
Good to hear someone from within sport and the legal profession commenting in such a way.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"The franchise system is IMO 100% bent, i think if challenged it would not stand up in a court of law, neither would the clause barring clubs from legally pursuing the RFL (should it exist).
Good to hear someone from within sport and the legal profession commenting in such a way.'"
I think the fact he is a RU loving journo ponce is influencing him more than the fact he has a legal background.
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| That may well be the case, but all the RL loving journo ponce's arent saying it, so he'll have to do.
From what i understand of him, from people who know him, he's a decent fella, by the way.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"I think the fact he is a RU loving journo ponce is influencing him more than the fact he has a legal background.'"
Wonder what he made of his 'amateur' colleagues picking up money in their boots, undeclared to HMRC, for many years. From his legal background of course.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"That may well be the case, but all the RL loving journo ponce's arent saying it, so he'll have to do.
From what i understand of him, from people who know him, he's a decent fella, by the way.'"
So the "all" the RL loving journo's are wrong and then and this 1 particular RU loving journo is right then?
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| I can't think of many, make that any RL journos that have come out and said that this franchise system is a joke, so Moore will have to do, as he has.
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