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| I'm going to start looking at college footballs prospects earlier this year. Suprised how low you rate Bradford, Conroy. He's the QB that has got my attention. Seen a few mocks with Clausen going first though. I'm dreaming that Taylor Mays ends up at the Chargrers.
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| Quote ="RedTez"I'm going to start looking at college footballs prospects earlier this year. Suprised how low you rate Bradford, Conroy. He's the QB that has got my attention. Seen a few mocks with Clausen going first though. I'm dreaming that Taylor Mays ends up at the Chargrers.'"
Although I've not watched much college ball this year, I think Bradford's stock was hurt due to injury. From what I've gathered, Bradford is the most talented QB that will enter the draft but teams might not be willing to take a chance on him. As long as the Rams don't make some bonehead pick and take Tebow, I'll be happy if we get hold of Clausen, Locker or Braford come April because although I don't like to admit it Bulger is done which is a shame because I've always been a big fan of his.
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| Quote ="RedTez"I'm going to start looking at college footballs prospects earlier this year. Suprised how low you rate Bradford, Conroy. He's the QB that has got my attention. Seen a few mocks with Clausen going first though. I'm dreaming that Taylor Mays ends up at the Chargrers.'"
Bradford is good, second only to Tebow at the college level but as an NFL QB i'd rate him as 4th in draft prospects (but probably will go as 5th QB).
Clausen will be the top QB. He has shown great progression and is the most NFL ready.
Locker is also very good and polished.
McCoy and Bradford are close at 3rd and 4th. They could be good but equally they could be Brian Brohm. Problems with these, particularly McCoy, is the system and accuracy.
I think the QB's will go in this order.
1st- Clausen
2nd- Locker
3rd- Tebow
4th- McCoy
5th- Bradford
Hopefully we can get the top tackle. Infact we need to draft O-Line in every round. Okung would be a dream pick, but more likely Bulaga. I wish we'd have drafted Michael Oher so much. Either that or trade for Joe Thomas.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"But that also means that Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton [ucould [/u be as good as Brady the same as every other QB in the league!!!
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No. You have to show potential. Rodgers has shown he can potentially be an excellent QB. Cassell and Orton haven't.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"No. You have to show potential. Rodgers has shown he can potentially be an excellent QB. Cassell and Orton haven't.
5 Worst Starting QB's
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Cassel has led a team to a winning season, Rodgers hasn't. He took a team that was in the NFC championship game to a 5-11 record(I think)...great work
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| Quote ="Dirtbag"Cassel has led a team to a winning season, Rodgers hasn't. He took a team that was in the NFC championship game to a 5-11 record(I think)...great work'"
Thank fook for that I thought I was imagining that, but lets wait for the excuses that Cassell had better recievers even though Conroy goes on about how good Green Bays are
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| I don't think it's hard to see why Conroy is so high on Rodgers at the moment. He is playing well and does show an awful lot of potential. His numbers are excellent so far this season. I don't buy the Cassell led the Pats to a winning season so is better argument. I would prefer Rodgers as my QB any day of the week over Cassell, and I think if people are honest, they would come to the same conclusion.
The one thing that infuriates me with him is how long he holds onto the ball though. THROW IT AWAY MAN. As much as I hate Eli, I thought he was excellent on Sunday, and one of the reasons is that he knew when to get rid of the ball. He avoided probably 4 sacks by throwing it away before the pressue got to him.
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| Quote ="Dirtbag"Cassel has led a team to a winning season, Rodgers hasn't. He took a team that was in the NFC championship game to a 5-11 record(I think)...great work'"
Winning record has nothing to do with it. (6-10 i think we were actually). It is the team around him. Frankly to expect a QB in his first year starting to get us to 13-3 or better would be ridiculous.
Cassell had a better team that Rodgers. Swap them around though and Rodgers would do better than Cassell on the Patriots team.
Rodgers was the ONLY good point of last season.
Quote ="LFCRhino"eusa_clap.gif Thank fook for that I thought I was imagining that, but lets wait for the excuses that Cassell had better recievers even though Conroy goes on about how good Green Bays are
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New England don't have better recievers. We have a better recieving corps.
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| Quote ="RedTez"I don't think it's hard to see why Conroy is so high on Rodgers at the moment. He is playing well and does show an awful lot of potential. His numbers are excellent so far this season. I don't buy the Cassell led the Pats to a winning season so is better argument. I would prefer Rodgers as my QB any day of the week over Cassell, and I think if people are honest, they would come to the same conclusion.
The one thing that infuriates me with him is how long he holds onto the ball though. THROW IT AWAY MAN. As much as I hate Eli, I thought he was excellent on Sunday, and one of the reasons is that he knew when to get rid of the ball. He avoided probably 4 sacks by throwing it away before the pressue got to him.'"
Rodgers is already performing at a top 5 QB level, it is just the team around him, we'll our O-Line which is the problem. He has to sprint around or end up on his back every play.
I don't think i'd trade him for anybody. He is already playing the level of the best in the league, has potential to improve and is younger than alot.
I agree about holding the ball though. The only area which he lacks. He is trying to make plays to compensate for our pourous O-Line but sometimes he needs to throw it away.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Winning record has nothing to do with it. (6-10 i think we were actually). It is the team around him. Frankly to expect a QB in his first year starting to get us to 13-3 or better would be ridiculous.
Cassell had a better team that Rodgers. Swap them around though and Rodgers would do better than Cassell on the Patriots team.
Rodgers was the ONLY good point of last season.
New England don't have better recievers. We have a better recieving corps.'"
Rodgers is far better than Cassell, I was merely picking up the fact that you say Cassel is rubbish yet lead a team to a good fecord which means he cant be that bad
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"No. You have to show potential. Rodgers has shown he can potentially be an excellent QB. Cassell and Orton haven't.
5 Worst Starting QB's
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2nd- Marc Bulger
3rd- Matt Cassell
4th- Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn
5th- Chad Henne'"
So you rate Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick better than these
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| Quote ="Sammy Stripes"So you rate Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick better than these
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I'd be tempted to push Henne out and Edwards/Fitzpatrick in.
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| Quote ="Sammy Stripes"So you rate Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick better than these
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| It is almost certain Mark Tauscher is out injured for us this week which means Allen "Can't Block For S**T" Babre is going to play RT. Whoever the Dallas LDE or LOLB is will have a field day.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"It is almost certain Mark Tauscher is out injured for us this week which means Allen "Can't Block For S**T" Babre is going to play RT. Whoever the Dallas LDE or LOLB is will have a field day.'"
It may be DeMarcus Ware? Or they could switch him round to attack him. Is he really that bad?
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| Quote ="Sanchez"It may be DeMarcus Ware? Or they could switch him round to attack him. Is he really that bad?'"
Yep he is terrible. He is a massive reason we are 4-4. He just can't block. He is probably at fault for at least 50% of our sack total.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Yep he is terrible. He is a massive reason we are 4-4. He just can't block. He is probably at fault for at least 50% of our sack total.'"
PMSL. Why is he in the team then?
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| Quote ="Sanchez"PMSL. Why is he in the team then?'"
Maybe there is no-one else.
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| Quote ="Sanchez"PMSL. Why is he in the team then?'"
No idea. We had Clifton at LT and Tauscher at RT last year. We relesed Tauscher and i think Cliffy got hurt either in pre-season or early in the year. Babre got the starting RT job and has been really bad, he gets ripped to shreads and just has appauling feet movement.
Tauscher was brought back got his job straight back and we looked good the first half. Tauscher gets injured. Babre comes in. Rodgers is running for his life.
Tauscher will be back at RT but he is injured definately this week and possibly another week after that.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Maybe there is no-one else.'" Craig Ironhead Heyward
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| Anyone fancy a trade in the fantasy? I'll offer Mendenhall in exchange for a receiver....
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| Looking forward to Thursday night football now (even though its 2 crap teams)
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| I need to make a decision, McCoy or Forte before KO tonight. If Westbrook was definetly out I'd have McCoy in no messing, but with him questionable, I have to take a chance one way or the other.
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| Quote ="RedTez"I need to make a decision, McCoy or Forte before KO tonight. If Westbrook was definetly out I'd have McCoy in no messing, but with him questionable, I have to take a chance one way or the other.'"
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