So it seems Newcastle are going to be on tele EVERY game they play this year then are they...?

No, we aren't.

You musn't have much time for watching the game if you can watch the entire away end to make sure if they aren't 'provoking' the Utd fans into doing aeroplane gestures.

Football season back. Any enjoyable reasoned debate on here over the past few weeks has gone out the window to petty arguments.

Why don't you just do one then?*

*sorry, couldn't resist.

I'll talk about football - ESPN aren't messing about are they? To my knowledge they have the following leagues LIVE:-

English
Monkey Tennis (Scotland)
Italy
Portugal
Russia
Holland
France (maybe)
Germany

It's now worth that 100 quid a year or whatever it is.

TBH I honestly don't find these leagues interesting at all. Serie A was interesting but has gone downhill. The Eredivisie is shocking IMO.

I'd happily watch the Prem, German, Spanish and, occasionally, the French leagues, but that's about it.

TBH mate, I have heard from a Chelsea fan and a Leeds fan that this goes on.

Not forgetting the biggest powerhouse in world football; the MLS.

Must be true then.



Karl's spot on with what he said. It's been a while since Dave has come out with his "United fans goad people into singing Munich" line, though, so it's no shock. What's next? Telling us how most city fans do it because it's pointing out that United as a club milk the disaster? Or denying that two thirds of the city end sang "who's that dying..." at Old Trafford a few years ago? At least I can admit that, on that occasion, they were goaded. Albeit by K Stand singing "Alfie how's your leg", nothing to do with Munich.

They're not known as liars for nothing.

Mate, that's a silly thing to say. You are saying that a United fan is more likely to tell the truth (about an accusation made against United fans than Liverpool, Leeds and City supporters. I'd trust three unreliable sources over one solitary unrealiable source.





You will get some Blues singing "Town full of Munichs" (at away games) and "Carlos Tevez is a Blue...He hates Munichs" (recently). Now I have not sang those songs, and neither will I do in the future. I believe it to be disrespectful. IMO a number of City fans perform these chants because they do believe United milked the disaster. Munich is a term that has stuck. If you talk to Blues on read City forums, you will find the majority think it is unnacceptable to make any reference to Munich. Believe me, when references are made to Munich during games, the City forums go ballistic. The vast majority of City fans will not refer to Munich in any chant or song.

Those who chant about the actual disaster, are simply offensive, and make such chants because they are...pathetic...what else can I say?

Maybe I am hypocritical. I mock scousers re 'self-pity city' etc.. Now people, including United fans and supporters from other clubs, including City, use this to mock scousers for, let's say, over-doing it with memorials, funderals etc.. This could include Heysel and Hillsbrough (from my own point of view, it relates more to Ken Bigley etc..). Is referring to Liverpool as 'self-pity city', and mocking scousers for this, more acceptable than City fans chanting "Carlos Tevez is a Blue...."?





What point are you trying to make here? What does it matter whether or not it is to do with Munich? You lot hissed at Spurs fans two years ago (missus was pregnant last year so din't go). This was on Holocaust Memorial Day. On this occasion, would it be okay for Spurs fans to sing about Munich? Deary me.

Lescott trains away from first team...

The French and Italian leagues are the most dull.

i'd much prefer to watch Dutch football.

Surely he wasn't [ithat [/ibad against Arsenal? I know he's a bit average but still.

I think Everton fans should be more worried about Yobo staying than Lescott going. Feillani was terrible too. Anyways, players and teams have off-days.

Given the choice I'd much rather lose 6-1 to Arsenal than 8-1 to Boro.

Not saying it doesn't happen mate. All I am saying is that both parties are at it in reponse to DD who reckons not one person out of the away end would have been doing an aeroplane gesture.

Anyway back onto football chat:

Why are city playing at Barca tonight? An attempt to enhance the global brand? Looks like city have joined the list of clubs (Utd included) that have sold out to the money men.

Lescott has been dropped, I don't know why Everton don't just sell, it's daft money for a player his ability and they can further strengthen the side in other areas.

Because Moyes is a very clever man.

We're desparate for the money. Bills to pay, got to keep the wolf from the door.

Gareth Barry missed a week's training recently due to the effects of a heavy tackle in training from Tel Ben Haim. Apparenthy TBH reserves his heaviest tackles for his teammates in training. This fixture is designed to temporarily protect the players from him.

The squad as a whole appears a tad undercooked at the moment. The new players need time to gel. The game will probably be played at walking pace, Barca will not want too taxing a friendly just before their season kicks off. Its essentially a glorified training session without the risk of TBH. The one real drawback will be that the players will miss a decent nights sleep.

The players will enjoy it. Hughes will use the fixture as a motivational exercise. We will receive an education in one of our weaknesses at Blackburn ie keeping the ball, from the best club team in the world.

Brilliant pre-season friendly. Utterly moronic fixture to have when the season has just started.

Why arent they playing a Prem match tonight? they too good for it already?

They were due to be playing Everton, which would have been awesome. Everton are playing a Europa League game though

If Everton can get anything like the quoted £20m then they should bite Manchester Citys hands off, IMO he's not even the best Centre Back at Everton and not even in Englands Top 5 Defenders...

paddypower have apparently suspended betting on fat rafa leaving.

Maybe, but our best defender is injured for a looooong while. And we can't rely on Yobo to be the key defender. Moyes needs to make it perfectly clear that Lescott is crucial to his plans and he should stay.

The guy ain't thick, hence why we finished 5th last year with a miniscule budget and injuries to key players

Don't believe it for a second myself. It's been publicised by Talk5hite, so obviously a top source. Only a couple of hours until Liverpool are playing so the rumours will soon be proved or not.