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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Durham Giant - Maybe one day, both Murray & the =#FF0000Giants will improve enough to gain a big prize?'"
Not until we get a better accountant.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I bet this is the first time you have bothered to watch tennis this year, just so you could come online afterwards and accuse Murrary of being a bottler. He's got to the final and is up against a stronger opponent who is playing superb tennis.
You sir, are a loser.'"
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| He is 24 in May, so he is younger than I thought.
He is ranked 5 in the world.
Jokovic almost exactly the same age is ranked number 3.
Jokovic was playing the best tennis of his life, so it was no surprise that he beat Murray.
I do have a sneaking feeling however, obviously just a guess, that Murray will never win a Grand Slam title as long as Federer, Nadal and Jokovic are about.
So I don't subscribe to 'Murray's time is still to come''... sorry!
I think he is at his peak.
Well he was when he was number 2.
So he is past his peak in reality.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"He is 24 in May, so he is younger than I thought.
He is ranked 5 in the world.
Jokovic almost exactly the same age is ranked number 3.
Jokovic was playing the best tennis of his life, so it was no surprise that he beat Murray.
I do have a sneaking feeling however, obviously just a guess, that Murray will never win a Grand Slam title as long as Federer, Nadal and Jokovic are about.
So I don't subscribe to 'Murray's time is still to come''... sorry!
I think he is at his peak.
=#FF0000Well he was when he was number 2.
So he is past his peak in reality.'"
In the press he is reported as being tired and is thinking about having 3 months off so he can spend more time with his girlfriend.
Maybe he should use the 3 months to get a tennis coach who can work on mental toughness.
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| He's lost to Federer in 2 majors and a very in form Nojo...hardly bad really.
What he lacks in another gear...the one Federer and Nadal can reach...Murray has to be one of the most steady players on the tour...but he does need another level to win a slam.
Over the last 5 years he has been light years ahead of someone like Del Potro....yet he has a major because he raised his game for 2 weeks in his life.
Can Murray do that...not so sure.
However he's number 4 in the world..and in an age of Federer and Nadal...thats pretty good
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| lets not forget Agassi lost his first 3 grand slam finals
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| Quote ="Up the Dons"lets not forget Agassi lost his first 3 grand slam finals'"
....and Lendl lost 4.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Not really because i know that Maidstone is 31 miles south east of London. therefore it is not IN London.
Your geography is as useless as your ability to develop a coherent argument against my central point that, at the moment Murray is an overhyped bottler. Until he wins something that is all he will be.'"
Using your ridiculous logic, do you consider Lee Westwood to be a bottler?
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Using your ridiculous logic, do you consider Lee Westwood to be a bottler?'"
Dunno maybe he has the Yips. You tell me.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Dunno maybe he has the Yips. You tell me.'"
Ah, dodging the question. Your ignorance and poor argument is duly noted.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Ah, dodging the question. Your ignorance and poor argument is duly noted.'"
No, actually i have no interest in golf whatsoever. I am always interested in those who have numbers after their name. Probabaly a sign that you are trying to live off someone elses coat tails.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"No, actually i have no interest in golf whatsoever. I am always interested in those who have numbers after their name. Probabaly a sign that you are trying to live off someone elses coat tails.'"
Still not answering the question.
Well, I will just take that then as your argument was pathetic and you cannot back it up. It happens from time to time. Just consider yourself ridiculed and move on.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Still not answering the question.
Well, I will just take that then as your argument was pathetic and you cannot back it up. It happens from time to time. Just consider yourself ridiculed and move on.'"
One day you will be first rate or second rate Wirefanatic.
Until then you are just number III.
Hope you enjoy your golf as i will continue to ignore it. Therefore i dont see that i will be able to explain to you why Lee westwood has not one a major. Why dont you ask someone who gives a damn.
If you could put forward an arguement why Murray has not won even one set in his finals other than him either having no Stamina or mental toughness please enlighten us.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"One day you will be first rate or second rate Wirefanatic.
Until then you are just number III.'"
Good lord that was poor.
Quote ="Durham Giant"Hope you enjoy your golf as i will continue to ignore it. Therefore i dont see that i will be able to explain to you why Lee westwood has not one a major. Why dont you ask someone who gives a damn.'"
Ouch, I think I have touched a raw nerve there. I wouldn't expect you to explain why Lee Westwood has not won a major because from your postings you are incapable of offering a solid foundation for a discussion.
Quote ="Durham Giant"If you could put forward an arguement why Murray has not won even one set in his finals other than him either having no Stamina or mental toughness please enlighten us.'"
No please, you're adamant that Murray is a choker/bottler, so take the stand and explain your reasonings behind it. Or is that it above, because if so, it's a pretty crap argument.
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| While he may not be a choker/bottler he still needs to learn how to turn up when the final comes along and I don't like the quote after the game that if he never wins a slam it won't be the end of the world,to me he should be saying i'm desperate to win one and i'll do everything I can to make it happen.There was somebody on the radio a couple of days ago saying his mother needs to take more of a back seat as she's always there with him at every tournament.
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| Quote ="DAR130"While he may not be a choker/bottler he still needs to learn how to turn up when the final comes along and I don't like the quote after the game that if he never wins a slam it won't be the end of the world,to me he should be saying i'm desperate to win one and i'll do everything I can to make it happen.There was somebody on the radio a couple of days ago saying his mother needs to take more of a back seat as she's always there with him at every tournament.'"
what's his mother got to do with anything ? he's either good enough or not surely ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"what's his mother got to do with anything ? he's either good enough or not surely ?
'" He was saying something about him needing to get a greater mental strength and to mature more and having his mother around him all the time will not be helping him achieve this.
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| Quote ="DAR130"He was saying something about him needing to get a greater mental strength and to mature more and having his mother around him all the time will not be helping him achieve this.'"
it didn't seem to affect Jimmy Connors - his mum almost bullied him off court and he ended up with eight Majors from fifteen finals !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"it didn't seem to affect Jimmy Connors - his mum almost bullied him off court and he ended up with eight Majors from fifteen finals !'"
Sounds like a bottler to me!
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| Quote ="J.T"Sounds like a bottler to me!'"
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| Quote ="J.T"Sounds like a bottler to me!'"
You could hardly accuse Connors of being a bottler. He did win his first three grand slams that he played in. You therefore need to find a better example if you want to make jokes about the opening thread. HTH.
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| As anyone ever got in to one of those arguments when you don't believe in what you're saying 100% but then you feel you have to carry it on and defend your original stance down to protecting your own ego ?
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| Quote ="j.c"He reminds me of the England RL team...Theres always at least two of the opposition out there that will always be better.'"
Yeah this. While Nadal, Fed & Djock are around he wont win anything.
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| Had a good giggle reading this before bed. Durham Giant you look like a right mug in this thread and you would do well to not post again and leave this thread well alone.
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