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Will be difficult now to get near Saints on Friday.
Possible team after reading this:-
Dan Sarginson
Jack Murphy
Jack Hughes
Anthony Gelling
Joe Burgess
Sean O'Loughlin
Matty Smith
Scott Taylor
George Williams
Gil Dudson
Connor Farrell
Greg Burke
Ben Flower
Bench:
Jordan James
Dom Crosby
Ryan Sutton
Ben Austin
Will need a big game from all 17, and the coaching staff, to get anything from this.
Any more injuries and we could end up dropping down the table with Saints, Catalan and Hull being three of our next 4 opponents.
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Will be difficult now to get near Saints on Friday.
Possible team after reading this:-
Dan Sarginson
Jack Murphy
Jack Hughes
Anthony Gelling
Joe Burgess
Sean O'Loughlin
Matty Smith
Scott Taylor
George Williams
Gil Dudson
Connor Farrell
Greg Burke
Ben Flower
Bench:
Jordan James
Dom Crosby
Ryan Sutton
Ben Austin
Will need a big game from all 17, and the coaching staff, to get anything from this.
Any more injuries and we could end up dropping down the table with Saints, Catalan and Hull being three of our next 4 opponents.
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| Can't be right, our injuries aren't that bad according to the Saints board!
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| I wouldn't believe that all of those players will be missing. Classic mind games from a coach in the build up to a big game. Charnley, Goulding, Bateman, Powell, Bowen won't all miss out, I'd be shocked at that.
Whatever team Wane puts out will be aggressive, committed and difficult to beat.
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| We'll have to see what the 19 is tomorrow. I'd be surprised if all of those mentioned as doubts don't play. Whatever the 17 for Friday is it will be a long way off our strongest.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"We'll have to see what the 19 is tomorrow. I'd be surprised if all of those mentioned as doubts don't play. Whatever the 17 for Friday is it will be a long way off our strongest.'"
You will be a long way off your strongest on paper but Wane has proven time and time again that he can motivate his side when it matters. This isn't me trying to play some sort of reverse psychology but I'd still have you men down as firm favourites going into this. We have failed to show up in important derby matches for quite a while now.
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| The 19 named doesn't mean a thing anymore. Wane has named a different side to what was in his 19 the last 3 games.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"You will on paper but Wane has proven time and time again that he can motivate his side when it matters. This isn't me trying to play some sort of reverse psychology but I'd still have you men down as firm favourites going into this. We have failed to show up in important derby matches for quite a while now.'"
Whatever team takes the pitch will be motivated and up for the challenge. We have shown we can cope with injuries but IMO we have a few too many out. Wigan have got a 2 point start with the bookies. I'll be picking St Helens in my accumulator.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Whatever team takes the pitch will be motivated and up for the challenge. We have shown we can cope with injuries but IMO we have a few too many out. Wigan have got a 2 point start with the bookies. I'll be picking St Helens in my accumulator.'"
I'm surprised at Wigan getting the start. Let's not forget Saints aren't at full strength either.
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| Thank god we're only playing Saints!
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| We tend to play well against Saints regardless of who is available so I'm still hopeful on this one regardless of who is available.
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| We've had Saints' number on GF for a few years now but the 2nd derby of the season hasn't been good to us:
2013 (A) - Lost 22-16
2012 (H) - Lost 18-26
2011 (A) - Won 32-10 (then 2 defeats in the POs)
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"icon_wink.gif
In fairness I actually fancy us more in a game like this minus a raft of players then I do in games we're expected to win. It's easier to forge that backs to the wall mentality that we and you managed against Leeds in games this season.'"
I agree. As much as I don't like Wane, you can't knock his ability to galvanise his team and get them up for when it counts. He doesn't hide the fact that he hates us and he instils that into his players too. It's a bit of cliche but whatever 17 you have out on Friday will be hugely motivated and very competitive.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"We've had Saints' number on GF for a few years now but the 2nd derby of the season hasn't been good to us:
2013 (A) - Lost 22-16
2012 (H) - Lost 18-26
2011 (A) - Won 32-10 (then 2 defeats in the POs)
2010 (H) - Lost 24-26'"
2013 - Five days before a cup semi, as such we rested Tomkins, Hansen and O'Loughlin, then brought McIlorum off after 15 minutes
2012 - Dead rubber a week before the play offs with McIlorum getting sent off early on
I know that will be seen as me making excuses but I genuinely think we would have beaten Saints in both of those games had they not been meaningless fixtures taking place the week before important games
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| Quote ="Grimmy"2013 - Five days before a cup semi, as such we rested Tomkins, Hansen and O'Loughlin, then brought McIlorum off after 15 minutes
2012 - Dead rubber a week before the play offs with McIlorum getting sent off early on
I know that will be seen as me making excuses but I genuinely think we would have beaten Saints in both of those games had they not been meaningless fixtures taking place the week before important games'"
I agree with the 2012 one but let's not forget we had key players missing in the 2013 game too.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I agree with the 2012 one but let's not forget we had key players missing in the 2013 game too.'"
Fair enough, no shame in scoring 3 tries apiece without our four main men though I'm sure you would agree. Certainly not indicative of a trend of us performing poorly in the second derby of the year as was suggested
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Fair enough, no shame in scoring 3 tries apiece without our four main men though I'm sure you would agree. Certainly not indicative of a trend of us performing poorly in the second derby of the year as was suggested'"
Yeah I'd agree with that. Certainly mitigating circumstances in the last 2 years.
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