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| I can understand the reasons, however misguided they may be, behind Shaun Wane resting players. However, the disappointment of not seeing our top stars every week is beginning to make me question my season ticket renewal for next season.
If Wane continues this policy attendances will , in my opinion, drop.
Me and my lad always try to bring along one of his mates to every home game with the promise of seeing all the stars.
Isn't that why we pay our money ?
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| Wane & Co. were slandered on here last season for allowing the team to burn out at the most important time (losing both semi finals).
The proof will be the performances in the CC Final and the playoffs.
I think we're doing "just enough" and yes, we're risking losing the Leaders Shield but (for me) a win against Hull at Wembley and an appearance in the GF (at least) would justify his tactics.
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| I don't think many will disagree with you, but thats the nature of the comp that the RFL have created. It is indeed a worry, and not really Wane's fault.
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| I think weve got it pretty much spot on so far. At the end of they day Waney cant win, if he rests players people will moan, if he doesn't and we dont win anything, people will moan. Absoulutely no reason to play Sam last night, id have been tempted to rest Lockers actually. The team put out was very capable of beating KR, and did. Its not like its a new thing, resting players has happened in every sport for generations i.e Football with the FA Cup, Carling Cup etc.
Why should attendances drop? If your a Wigan fan you should go to the game to watch Wigan RL not Sam Tomkins. In fact, if anything I enjoy the games a bit more when we play a mid table side and rest players, it gives me a chance to see the youngsters play and at the same time it makes it more competitive. Last night was about getting 2 points and cementing a good league position, which we did.
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| It doesn't bother me too much as long as lads like Hampshire and Burgess get a shot. What I do find a bit frustrating is that Charnley never gets given a break, and he looks like he could do with it! He seems to have a fair few niggles at the minute.
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| I am one of the 1,000 or so Wigan fans who have refused to renew our season ticket and this is one of the issues with me if I wanted to watch young players id rather watch the under 19s
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| We witness better games when players have been rested. With full strength sides we've seen some terrible games that were uncompetitive.
I wish he'd rest players every week.
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| The thing that does me is that Tomkins is leaving after this season, we should be getting as much out of him as we can!
The guy is one of the best players in the world, he should be able to play 1 game a week!!
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| As a Hull fan, I hope Sam tomkins gets rested at the CC final
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"The thing that does me is that Tomkins is leaving after this season, we should be getting as much out of him as we can!
The guy is one of the best players in the world, he should be able to play 1 game a week!!'"
Should we not be looking forward and seeing if we have possible replacement(s) inhouse?
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| Sam didn't play because he was ill apparently.
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"I am one of the 1,000 or so Wigan fans who have refused to renew our season ticket and this is one of the issues with me if I wanted to watch young players id rather watch the
under 19s'"
I hope you're ashamed of yourself.
You are of course entitled to stay away in protest, but given that we're in the Challenge Cup final and doing very well in the league, forgive me if I wonder what the ACTUAL F**K you are really doing this for!
Also, bear in mind that, however you explain it to us and/or excuse it to yourself, it is still damaging the club. Maybe only in a small way, but it's an odd thing to go public about. I'm pretty unimpressed.
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| I actually enjoy seeing the squad players. i really miss the u19 game before the main event, as we used to have at CP. being a long-distance fan, its not possible for me to get to the junior games, so seeing them brought into the 1st team in a structured way, is a bonus to me.
whilst seeing the 1st XVII every week is nice. the long term planning is an essential part of the modern game, so i appreciate seeing it done well. allowing juniors experience in a winning team can only (IMHO) be seen as good
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| I dont think for one minute that Sam was ill last night. Wigan know Sam is going, it isnt public yet but they know he is. For me Sam will play in the key games and we will use Hampshire at full back in the rest, get as much Super League experience as possible before he takes over the full back role next season.
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| IMO we need to play a settled and if at all possible our strongest team for the next two weeks to try and find some form before Wembley.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"I dont think for one minute that Sam was ill last night. Wigan know Sam is going, it isnt public yet but they know he is. For me Sam will play in the key games and we will use Hampshire at full back in the rest, get as much Super League experience as possible before he takes over the full back role next season.'"
People on here asked why was Hampshire not in the HKR squad when everyone thought he would be, after being left out of the U19s last Monday.
Maybe Wigan knew last Monday that Sam was going to be ill on Friday.
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| 2 of my favourite games at home this year have been Bradford and HKr. It's all well and good putting 60 on sides week in week ou and not getting to the finals. I'd rather rotate and get to finals in peak condition than limp out in semis. It also gives us a chance to see the next generation!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I hope you're ashamed of yourself.
You are of course entitled to stay away in protest, but given that we're in the Challenge Cup final and doing very well in the league, forgive me if I wonder what the ACTUAL F**K you are really doing this for!
Also, bear in mind that, however you explain it to us and/or excuse it to yourself, it is still damaging the club. Maybe only in a small way, but it's an odd thing to go public about. I'm pretty unimpressed.'"
I still think that after all these years that Mr Frisk is a troll.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"I dont think for one minute that Sam was ill last night. Wigan know Sam is going, it isnt public yet but they know he is. For me Sam will play in the key games and we will use Hampshire at full back in the rest, get as much Super League experience as possible before he takes over the full back role next season.'"
A few of the Wigan players were asking him how his stomach was on Twitter yesterday afternoon. Andy Powell being one of them. Seems he had the trots!
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| The trouble with resting Sam and Lockers or them not being in side whatever the reason is that the opposition get a real lift out of it and fancy their chances.
Last night I couldn't make the game but SKY's output was embarrassing. Their game headline was "Pay back Time"and that is all they were interested in.
Seems at times HKR got caught up in the hype too.
The disappointment in their voices at Josh's first try compared to when HKR scored was laughable.
Don't know how to overcome this as SW was slated last year for his squad going out in both semis. This time he's rotated his squad plus injuries and many are still not pleased.
Apart from giving the opposition a morale booster prior to the game I'm not sure what more SW can do to keep his squad as fresh as possbile and cope with injuries.
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| Il be honest dont see the problem.
I like to watch Wigan play. The team. I like watching stars, but I also enjoy watching the young kids and up and coming players as well.
Really doesnt bother me who does or doesnt get rested, I enjoy the game, I couldnt imagine watching or going less because some players werent playing as much.
On that line of thought, if say Sam went to NZW, would people just stop supporting Wigan?
Or if Pearl signed for another SL club (heaven forbid it) do you support them instead?
Im mot having a go btw Im being honest, I dont see the problem, for me the must win games should have all the best playing while everything else is the Coaches job to rotate and rest and is fair game for youngsters and fringe players.
Sometines I enjoy the closer contest rather then our stars winning a game in the first twenty mins.
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| Il be honest dont see the problem.
I like to watch Wigan play. The team. I like watching stars, but I also enjoy watching the young kids and up and coming players as well.
Really doesnt bother me who does or doesnt get rested, I enjoy the game, I couldnt imagine watching or going less because some players werent playing as much.
On that line of thought, if say Sam went to NZW, would people just stop supporting Wigan?
Or if Pearl signed for another SL club (heaven forbid it) do you support them instead?
Im mot having a go btw Im being honest, I dont see the problem, for me the must win games should have all the best playing while everything else is the Coaches job to rotate and rest and is fair game for youngsters and fringe players.
Sometines I enjoy the closer contest rather then our stars winning a game in the first twenty mins.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Should we not be looking forward and seeing if we have possible replacement(s) inhouse?'"
yes, i agree with that. I speculated weeks ago in another thread that the decision not to play Sam was Wanes , so he could see the options for "life after sam" and if he needed to buy a full back.
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| Top of the league and Challenge Cup Final.
Wane Out!
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| Quote ="apollosghost"IMO we need to play a settled and if at all possible our strongest team for the next two weeks to try and find some form before Wembley.'"
wont happen...full strength v Hudds, rest lots v Catalan
I have faith in the team, we will turn it on at wembley.
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