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| Quote ="Father Ted"Offiah is touting him towards Union when he's 25. Until then he'll be with Saints. It is up to Saints to keep him in RL as at present the only person talking about Union is Offiah.
Perhaps a change of agent rather than a change of code would be more appropriate.'"
Offiah hasn't sent anyone to Union yet. Clarke and Howes have.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Offiah hasn't sent anyone to Union yet. Clarke and Howes have.'"
Valid point.
Clarke had to cheek to complain about us losing Ashton as well.
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| Yet, being the word Rouges.
Not for the want of trying from Offiah as he says he's already spoken to Jason Robinson.
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| Another three for Offiah
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Another three for Offiah
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Read a piece last week with Offiah bigging up this kid Omari Caro as the next big thing in Rugby League and now we see why!
Michael Worrincy is going to be the worlds best player in a couple of years aswell
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Another three for Offiah
[urlhttp://www.league.quins.co.uk/academy/10600.php?includeref=9265&refreshcache=1&vote=2820&PHPSESSID=2b81d4b2efeb80a4f678fed8a40cc5fe[/url'"
When I met Offiah last year at our reserves match in London, it was obvious he is very close to the Quins side, including the management and the players.
His career and income depends on his ability to get the best deal for his clients, and if he can build a reputation as a good agent, he'll get more clients.
Let's not forget that to him and the players their career is short, and they need to earn money whilst working.
As much as we, as fans, want the best players in RL, we can't begrudge a player chasing the cash, when we would probably do the same in our own walks of life.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Michael Worrincy is going to be the worlds best player in a couple of years aswell
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According to Offiah on Sky towards the end of the season, Michael Worrincy is already THE best back rower in SL
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"When I met Offiah last year at our reserves match in London, it was obvious he is very close to the Quins side, including the management and the players.
His career and income depends on his ability to get the best deal for his clients, and if he can build a reputation as a good agent, he'll get more clients.
Let's not forget that to him and the players their career is short, and they need to earn money whilst working.
As much as we, as fans, want the best players in RL, we can't begrudge a player chasing the cash, when we would probably do the same in our own walks of life.'"
I agree, but it's inevitable that RL folk will resent it when someone like Offiah - who owes everything he has to RL - starts looking to send RL players to RU.
Sure, it's all about money. But British RL can ill-afford to lose any more players, particularly from its star ranks, which are threadbare as it is. People like Offiah and Andy Clarke expect us to understand that they must get the best deal possible for their clients. In turn, they must understand why we hate them for deliberately weakening our game.
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| Quote ="Bert's Medal"According to Offiah on Sky towards the end of the season, Michael Worrincy is already THE best back rower in SL
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Michael Worrincy is officially the most mentioned sportsman on Sky Sports News for 2009 so far
David Beckham is lagging 2,537 mentions behind and Wayne Rooney is 1,450 behind. Tiger Woods is making a late charge but is still a whopping 5,550 behind.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Michael Worrincy is officially the most mentioned sportsman on Sky Sports News for 2009 so far
David Beckham is lagging 2,537 mentions behind and Wayne Rooney is 1,450 behind. Tiger Woods is making a late charge but is still a whopping 5,550 behind.'"
Surely Henry must be up there
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| lol@people complaining about Offiah and Clarke.
if you want to complain, complain about Ashton and Eastmond
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| Quote ="Marcus Jones"lol@people complaining about Offiah and Clarke.
if you want to complain, complain about Ashton and Eastmond'"
I take it you weren't online around the time Ashton was defecting?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Michael Worrincy is officially the most mentioned sportsman on Sky Sports News for 2009 so far
David Beckham is lagging 2,537 mentions behind and Wayne Rooney is 1,450 behind. =redTiger Woods is making a late charge but is still a whopping 5,550 behind.'"
not any more old cock hes just about level after this week
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I agree, but it's inevitable that RL folk will resent it when someone like Offiah - who owes everything he has to RL - starts looking to send RL players to RU.
Sure, it's all about money. But British RL can ill-afford to lose any more players, particularly from its star ranks, which are threadbare as it is. People like Offiah and Andy Clarke expect us to understand that they must get the best deal possible for their clients. In turn, they must understand why we hate them for deliberately weakening our game.'"
As far as I'm aware they don't force the players to leave, they just provide them with the options out there.
Agents aren't forcing good young players to leave, it's clubs thinking they can take the p*ss with young players salaries and not paying them their worth which makes them want to leave.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I take it you weren't online around the time Ashton was defecting?'"
So why are people like yourself having a pop at Clarke? Did he force Ashton to employ him?
The buck stops with the player, not the agent.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"As far as I'm aware they don't force the players to leave, they just provide them with the options out there.
Agents aren't forcing good young players to leave, it's clubs thinking they can take the p*ss with young players salaries and not paying them their worth which makes them want to leave.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="Marcus Jones"So why are people like yourself having a pop at Clarke? Did he force Ashton to employ him?
The buck stops with the player, not the agent.'"
Both players and agents want to make money. No problem there at all. They need to live.
But agents who advise their players to go to Union are still damaging RL. Sorry if this truth hurts them. But they can't have it both ways. If they send their players to Union - which many of them seek to do, because there is more money there - they are going to be disliked in League. End of.
For the record, those players who opt to go are guilty of the same thing. Though at the end of the day they are usually young men, or even lads, who are acting on the advice of their agents, who they see as mentors, father figures, etc. I had an agent, and I very rarely went against his advice.
So for me, the agents are slightly more guilty.
I can see why they do this. I understand it. But I still don't care. As a die-hard RL fan, I bitterly resent anyone, whatever their reason, who damages RL. Sorry, but that's all there is to it.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Both players and agents want to make money. No problem there at all. They need to live.
But agents who advise their players to go to Union are still damaging RL. Sorry if this truth hurts them. But they can't have it both ways. If they send their players to Union - which many of them seek to do, because there is more money there - they are going to be disliked in League. End of.
For the record, those players who opt to go are guilty of the same thing. Though at the end of the day they are usually young men, or even lads, who are acting on the advice of their agents, who they see as mentors, father figures, etc. I had an agent, and I very rarely went against his advice.
So for me, the agents are slightly more guilty.
I can see why they do this. I understand it. But I still don't care. As a die-hard RL fan, I bitterly resent anyone, whatever their reason, who damages RL. Sorry, but that's all there is to it.'"
very good point.I could not agree more
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I see Greg Bird has joined the Titans, shame really as he was a great player to watch plus he's a big loss for the Catalans.
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I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now.
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I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now.
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Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Greg Bird has joined the Titans, shame really as he was a great player to watch plus he's a big loss for the Catalans.
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I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now.'"
I hope so and I also hope I have the opportunity to see him get his ar5e handed to him at every opportunity.
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I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now.'"
I hope so and I also hope I have the opportunity to see him get his ar5e handed to him at every opportunity.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I hope so and I also hope I have the opportunity to see him get his ar5e handed to him at every opportunity.'"
He's be the biggest target ever if he comes over here.
I can see teams just flying at him at every opportunity and Big Willie being at the disciplinary every couple of weeks.
It should be interesting if it comes off.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He's be the biggest target ever if he comes over here.
I can see teams just flying at him at every opportunity and Big Willie being at the disciplinary every couple of weeks.
It should be interesting if it comes off.'"
Him and Fielden will be interesting.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Him and Fielden will be interesting.'"
For sure
I hope the move comes off because it'll bring some publicity to the game over here and will just make for a more interesting league. The games against Catalans will be looked forward to even more then before which is great.
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| It would make our third home game of the season very interesting, and from IL's point of view very marketable.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Him and Fielden will be interesting.'" I hope it comes off, Fielden smashes him, gets the monkey off his back and becomes the player he was.
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