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| Quote ="onside"Their loss to Catalan was Mainly down to the terrible weather conditions which didn’t suit their fast open playing style.'"
The weather come playoff time is always superb isn't it.................................
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Its simple why we look unbeatable. We have a half decent team. The rest of SL is absolutely dire. Whilst we are on the Wigan forum, lets take them for example. How on earth a club operating at full cap can put together such an abysmal squad is beyond me. Even the 75-0 team was better on paper than this.
This Saints team would be no where near challenging in SL 10 years ago.
We are just lucky this year that the rest of SL are so bad.'"
Yet if we meet in the playoffs you will cack yourself.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Saints are on cruise control this time of year every season. The only reason they are swaggering (more than usual) is the absence of Shaun Wane.
I still fancy Wigan to scrap our way into the top 5 and do some damage in September. Purely because the rest of the league is garbage and we still have players with championship pedigree.'"
The idea that you’re going to do ‘damage’ in the play offs simply because puddings like Clubb, Isa, Powell and so on have all (somehow) been part of Grand Final winning sides is absolute nonsense. As soon as you face Saints or Wire (if you get that far) you are going to lose. How are we on cruise control this time every year? Last season was the first time we finished top since 2014 and we won the Grand Final that year beating Wane’s Wigan.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Look through their team, they have some good solid players but no real stand outs and they also have some very average players who are playing out of their skin. I mean take Coote for example. He was nothing more than a solid player in the NRl, far from a stand out performer but over here he is killing it. Is Holbrook really some kind of coaching genius? Some of the rugby they are playing is top drawer and they seem to be unbeatable when they are at or near full strength. Why are Aussie clubs not knocking the door down to get Holbrook and a few of their players as they would be if it was Wigan?
Or is it just that the rest of Super League is so utter terrible with such low quality personnel that players like Coote and Lomax look like RL wizards?'"
I agree with the overall point about the standard of SL being rubbish but no real stand outs? Thompson, Roby and Walmsley is a front row that is better than a lot of NRL sides and is world class. Whilst Coote fell out of favour last season, he was a key part of the Cowboys side which won a Grand Final and got to another. He was being touted for Origin at one point and turned down big offers from the Sydney clubs. He’s the best fullback in SL by a mile and would get into several NRL sides with the way he’s playing. And Aussie clubs are knocking the door down to get our players, Walmsley turned down St George to sign a new contract, there’s a lot of interest in Thompson and Holbrook hasn’t yet signed a new contract so it’s very possible he could leave at the end of the season as well.
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| Quote ="AS108"Whilst Coote fell out of favour last season, he was a key part of the Cowboys side which won a Grand Final and got to another. He was being touted for Origin at one point and turned down big offers from the Sydney clubs. He’s the best fullback in SL by a mile and would get into several NRL sides with the way he’s playing.'"
All things you said about Ben Barba last season when you won the.......oh wait a minute.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"All things you said about Ben Barba last season when you won the.......oh wait a minute.'"
Struggling to see the relevance, I was responding to Coote being labelled as nothing special in the NRL.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Course he is mate. Now go and have a lie down while Manfredi, Hardaker, Flower, Greenwood, Davis etc Cound their multiple Grand Final and Challenge Cup medals. Remind me again how many Walmsley has? He must have amassed a fair number, being better than all those multiple medal winners put together and having played in basically this same 'unbeatable' Saints side last year... not to mention MOS Ben Barba! Bet the guy can barely walk as he's weighed down by all that silverware.
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That makes Ryan Bailey a world beater and Walmsley is not on the same page!!!
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| Quote ="AS108"The idea that you’re going to do ‘damage’ in the play offs simply because puddings like Clubb, Isa, Powell and so on have all (somehow) been part of Grand Final winning sides is absolute nonsense. As soon as you face Saints or Wire (if you get that far) you are going to lose. How are we on cruise control this time every year? Last season was the first time we finished top since 2014 and we won the Grand Final that year by default after Flower was sent off 2 mins in. Although we did trail for 54 mins against 12 men'"
Fixed that for you
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Even the 75-0 team was better on paper than this.
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Course it was
Gleeson (Sean)
Dallas, Aspinwall, Wild, Carney
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Seu Seu, Newton, Sculthorpe, Allen, Tickle,Beswick.
Replacements: Hansen, Godwin, Guisset, Hargreaves.
It was even worse at the time then it looks on paper as kids like Hansen, Hargreaves and Beswick went on to have good careers but were all junior players. I look at that realistically and think that Terry Newton is the only cert to get on our current best 17. The two wingers would probably get in (although a fully fit Manfredi could take either) and then maybe somebody like Danny Shorpe or Guisset.
In short you’re chatting out of your backside (as usual).
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Course it was
Gleeson (Sean)
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Seu Seu, Newton, Sculthorpe, Allen, Tickle,Beswick.
Replacements: Hansen, Godwin, Guisset, Hargreaves.
It was even worse at the time then it looks on paper as kids like Hansen, Hargreaves and Beswick went on to have good careers but were all junior players. I look at that realistically and think that Terry Newton is the only cert to get on our current best 17. The two wingers would probably get in (although a fully fit Manfredi could take either) and then maybe somebody like Danny Shorpe or Guisset.
In short you’re chatting out of your backside (as usual).
Regards'"
I agree. The only quality in that team was:
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Nice to see old friends returning....'"
All this rain was bound to flush up a turd or two!
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| Quote ="AS108"The idea that you’re going to do ‘damage’ in the play offs simply because puddings like Clubb, Isa, Powell and so on have all (somehow) been part of Grand Final winning sides is absolute nonsense. As soon as you face Saints or Wire (if you get that far) you are going to lose. How are we on cruise control this time every year? Last season was the first time we finished top since 2014 and we won the Grand Final that year beating Wane’s Wigan.'"
Puddings who have more SL rings than basically the entire Saints team LOL. Hey I’m delighted you are so confident, it’s last year all over again minus super Benny Barba
You’d better hope Wigan don’t make their way into the playoffs and come up against you, because it is YOU who will your pants and lose. When it comes to the crunch we’ve got your number and you know it, even a Tesco Value Wigan will scare the life out of Saints.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Puddings who have more SL rings than basically the entire Stains team LOL. Hey I’m delighted you are so confident, it’s last year all over again minus super Benny Barba
You’d better hope Wigan don’t make their way into the playoffs and come up against you, because it is YOU who will poop your pants and lose. When it comes to the crunch we’ve got your number and you know it, even a Tesco Value Wigan will scare the life out of Saints.'"
Dont talk daft orrell lad.We lost last year to a decent Warrington side in the semis in a 1 off game.This year the top 2 get 2 bites at the cherry .Wigan this year arent a decent side and if for some miracle you scrape into the top 5 will fall at the first hurdle when you come up against either us ,wire or hull.
Im sure the saints forwards will be bricking it having Clubb,Flower,Isa Tautai and Bullock running at them.Not one of your best 13 wouild get into the saints side.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Dont talk daft orrell lad.We lost last year to a decent Warrington side in the semis in a 1 off game.This year the top 2 get 2 bites at the cherry .Wigan this year arent a decent side and if for some miracle you scrape into the top 5 will fall at the first hurdle when you come up against either us ,wire or hull.
Im sure the saints forwards will be bricking it having Clubb,Flower,Isa Tautai and Bullock running at them.Not one of your best 13 wouild get into the saints side.'"
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"Dont talk daft orrell lad.We lost last year to a decent Warrington side in the semis in a 1 off game.This year the top 2 get 2 bites at the cherry .Wigan this year arent a decent side and if for some miracle you scrape into the top 5 will fall at the first hurdle when you come up against either us ,wire or hull.
Im sure the saints forwards will be bricking it having Clubb,Flower,Isa Tautai and Bullock running at them.Not one of your best 13 wouild get into the saints side.'"
Hardaker, Gildart, Williams Flower, Greenwood, Farrell and Lockers would all be watching from the stands?
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Puddings who have more SL rings than basically the entire Stains team LOL. Hey I’m delighted you are so confident, it’s last year all over again minus super Benny Barba
You’d better hope Wigan don’t make their way into the playoffs and come up against you, because it is YOU who will poop your pants and lose. When it comes to the crunch we’ve got your number and you know it, even a Tesco Value Wigan will scare the life out of Saints.'"
What has being part of a successful team got to do with individual ability? That Wigan squad is being shown up for what they are now Bateman, Tomkins and Wane have gone, puddings. You’ve got no chance of beating us in the playoffs, the only teams who are capable of putting in a performance that could beat us in a one off game are Wire and Hull. As saintnickle says, not a single one of your players gets into our team, not even ‘best fullback in the world’ Dan Sarginson. You have a rubbish squad and an even worse coach.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Hardaker, Gildart, Williams Flower, Greenwood, Farrell and Lockers would all be watching from the stands?
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Coote is miles better than Hardaker, the stats back that up. O’Loughlin is finished, Williams is one of the most overrated players in Super League and Lomax is currently miles better, Flower is bang average at best and hasn’t made 100+ metres once this season which is pathetic, Greenwood is nothing special, Farrell is injured every couple of weeks and we’ll stick with Percival and Naiqama over Gildart. So yes they would indeed all be watching from the stands.
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| Quote ="AS108"Struggling to see the relevance, I was responding to Coote being labelled as nothing special in the NRL.'"
Well this time last year it was how Barba is the best player in the league, Saints will walk the title etc etc.
Fast forward to today and Coote is the best FB in the league and Saints will walk it again.
We've seen and heard it all before.
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| A moment of pure madness from Ben Flower is the only reason they haven't remained "potless" in over a decade.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"That makes Ryan Bailey a world beater and Walmsley is not on the same page!!!'"
Because that's what I said, wasn't it? The straw man argument; the refuge of those with nothing relevant to say.
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| Quote ="AS108"Coote is miles better than Hardaker, the stats back that up. O’Loughlin is finished, Williams is one of the most overrated players in Super League and Lomax is currently miles better, Flower is bang average at best and hasn’t made 100+ metres once this season which is pathetic, Greenwood is nothing special, Farrell is injured every couple of weeks and we’ll stick with Percival and Naiqama over Gildart. So yes they would indeed all be watching from the stands.'"
Remind me who one of the greatest coaches of all time picked at centre out of Gildart and Percival last year will you please?
It’s slipped my mind.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Remind me who one of the greatest coaches of all time picked at centre out of Gildart and Percival last year will you please?
It’s slipped my mind.'"
And who he continues to select as his captain.
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| Seems folk on Red Vee think we are obsessed with them as we’ve gone to 8 pages, that’s a laugh every post they put on their pages they can’t resist mentioning us, oh and always in derogatory terms, never constructive......well maybe once or twice we get a compliment,
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| We haven't yet played in a semi-final this year
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